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re: The Red Stick Trolley flopped, so let's try a Tram!!!
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:35 pm to BilJ
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:35 pm to BilJ
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I think most in the thread when they announced this concept predicted its inevitable fail. That's just one concept that isn't going to work in a city like BR.
Yea word. We all said it would fail in those threads. I just dont see a place like that ever working here. We just dont have the clientele for it to stay open for 5+ years.
The one place I thought that might have a chance to make it was Rasputins downtown. They didnt try to go all South Beach and kept it more like a lounge. They actually brought in legit djs. Even that went belly up though.
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:37 pm to Deactived
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The one place I thought that might have a chance to make it was Rasputins downtown
in response to j's point i almost brought up rasputins
loved that place as a change of pace
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:40 pm to NYNolaguy1
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After moving to NYC, I am pretty convinced it's a cultural thing, and not a supply/demand thing
Actually, it's a population density thing although this eventually makes it to cultural acceptance.
The CATS tax was a double screw job because they had to shrink the taxing district in order to pass it. So, they doubled the budget by taxing half the population on the poorer side of towm -- many of which fall under homestead exemption. So, the people in that district are screwed into paying much more than double their share for a poorly run, underutilized bus system.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:40 pm to TeddyPadillac
Well no shite they're the ones who cause problems 
and they mostly do that a City Bar.
As for your demographic info, have you been to Capitol Heights lately? Bernard Terrace? Those areas are filled with mostly whites aged 20-35 without kids. The garden district is mostly older, but has a lot of young people moving in now too. Most people I know in law school live in the garden district. The same is true for Old Goodwood, Steele, Broussard, ect.
and they mostly do that a City Bar. As for your demographic info, have you been to Capitol Heights lately? Bernard Terrace? Those areas are filled with mostly whites aged 20-35 without kids. The garden district is mostly older, but has a lot of young people moving in now too. Most people I know in law school live in the garden district. The same is true for Old Goodwood, Steele, Broussard, ect.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
i thought it would last. they made the most honest attempt to bring that kind of place into BR.
but it still ended up on relying on the same people to frequent the club every week.
I think the place would have been very successful in a number of larger/different cities
but it still ended up on relying on the same people to frequent the club every week.
I think the place would have been very successful in a number of larger/different cities
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:41 pm to kingbob
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If you don't think that TAF and BRAF talk and coordinate then you are extremely ignorant. The two organizations have many of the same members and donors.
That's not what I said, I said the large expansion of athletic facilities had nothing to do with expansion downtown. LSU and LSU people did all of that in response to the athletic boom.
And yes some LSU people belong to BRAF, but there was no coordination with the city to add on to TS, build Alex Box, etc. That was all LSU.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:43 pm to kingbob
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Commuters to jobs downtown will take it from 7-9. Lunch crowd will take it from 11-2 happy hour and commuters will take it from 4-7. Dinner crowd from 6-9. Barflys from 9-3. That leaves it being under-utilized from 3-7am, 9-11am, 2-4pm, and from 8-10pm, just like every other mass transit system in existence. It will be busy half of the time, and not busy half the time. I want to see if the use studies will show that the half the time when it is busy will make enough revenue to support the other half when it is not.
If 100,000 people lived in Tiger Stadium, yes. Otherwise this is going to be a complete waste of money.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:43 pm to Deactived
don't recall Rasputin's
but yeah they also poured over 1million into a building they're leasing. How no one thought the whole thing wasn't a terrible idea is beyond me.
but yeah they also poured over 1million into a building they're leasing. How no one thought the whole thing wasn't a terrible idea is beyond me.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:43 pm to Deactived
downtown was pretty great back in that 05-07 range when it was finding its feet
you had happys as a smokey pub
roux house for generic bar stuff
rasputins was a change of pace in atmosphere, clientele, and overall aesthetics
then you could slum it by going to the freak show bar whose name i can't remember
you had happys as a smokey pub
roux house for generic bar stuff
rasputins was a change of pace in atmosphere, clientele, and overall aesthetics
then you could slum it by going to the freak show bar whose name i can't remember
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:44 pm to doubleb
And I'm saying that no project that size occurs in a vacuum. There absolutely was coordination as part of a wider plan of investment in the area. I know this from talking with big donors to those projects.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:48 pm to doubleb
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I'm sorry but the Athletic construction at LSU was never part of any master plan. It all was a result of the college athletic boom created by television.
Renovation of the old box has been part of the master plan before the new box was finished. That area makes a lot more sense for mix use. Academic and athletic do not operate in separate vacuums.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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then you could slum it by going to the freak show bar whose name i can't remember
was this on 3rd street?
they had a place called the bengal i think. redstar was also around there.
Bilj, holy shite a million? Thats absurd
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:50 pm to Deactived
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“This is something that hasn’t been done before here,” he said. “We are trying to take Baton Rouge nightlife up to the next level.”
More than $1 million went into renovating the space. Along with work on three walls and a roof that was falling in, Bayard and his team upgraded the space with new plumbing and electrical work as well as granite counter tops, renovated walls and new carpeting. The second floor offers a balcony, overlooking the first floor.
“We’re going for a super VIP-level experience,” he said. “It’s something to be seen.”
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
the parrot something or the other was the first bar I remember people going to downtown. This was back when I was in HS and there wasn't much downtown.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:52 pm to BilJ
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“This is something that hasn’t been done before here,” he said. “We are trying to take Baton Rouge nightlife up to the next level.”
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“We’re going for a super VIP-level experience,” he said. “It’s something to be seen.”
These two quotes are pretty awesome
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:52 pm to Deactived
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redstar was also around there.
that's what i'm thinking of
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
they renovated that in the last few years. now its upscale hipster
that place years ago had a pretty rough looking patio in the back.
that place years ago had a pretty rough looking patio in the back.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:55 pm to kingbob
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And I'm saying that no project that size occurs in a vacuum. There absolutely was coordination as part of a wider plan of investment in the area. I know this from talking with big donors to those projects
In modern times TS had four separate expansion projects beginning in 1978, the PMAC was built and was renovated, Softball got a new stadium, the old Box was torn down, and many other support facilities were constructed. What did the parish do in response? Little or nothing.
With the exception of Burbank, the streets are basically the same as they have been for 40 years. LSU has basically grown on its own without help from the city or the parish.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:56 pm to kingbob
The principle is solid, but the idea isn't feasible. BR is too spread out to make it effective, and the only people who use public transit in Baton Rouge are people who can't afford cars.
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