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re: The Red Stick Trolley flopped, so let's try a Tram!!!

Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:56 pm to
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:56 pm to
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I've heard from police officers that the downtown bar scene is more Port Allen/Livingston/Baker/Zachary blue collar crowd, or at least the ones causing trouble.


Trashy people start more shite when they're drunk?

Man, what a revelation.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42552 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:57 pm to
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Renovation of the old box has been part of the master plan before the new box was finished. That area makes a lot more sense for mix use. Academic and athletic do not operate in separate vacuums.


Yes, and that plan was created with the last 10-12 years.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162876 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 1:59 pm to
its The River Room now, but not sure what type of crowd it draws
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:00 pm to
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Aside from football season, who will be regularly using this?



I heard speculation that it wouldn't even be available on gameday.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:00 pm to
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The principle is solid, but the idea isn't feasible. BR is too spread out to make it effective


Well to be fair, it would connect the two most densely populated areas.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36292 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:00 pm to
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but yeah they also poured over 1million into a building they're leasing. How no one thought the whole thing wasn't a terrible idea is beyond me.


Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70412 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:01 pm to
From my experience, none at all
The place has been mostly empty every time I've walked by there.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30312 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:01 pm to
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As for your demographic info, have you been to Capitol Heights lately? Bernard Terrace?


well that's not mid city or the garden district is it?
Still...median age for those neighborhoods

Capitol Heights 36
Bernard Terrace 40
Goodwood 40
Steele 37


Regardless i agree that there are some young professionals in these areas in those small shotgun houses that are overpriced. And that the downtown scene is young professionals and young blue collar characters from WBR/NBR/Livingston

Still doesn't mean we need a frickin tram. Spend the money on roads and intersections. No one is riding the bus or any other from of public transportation as long as it's littered with the blacks of North Baton Rouge. Sorry if you don't like that racist statement, but that's the fact of it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42552 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:02 pm to
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I heard speculation that it wouldn't even be available on gameday.


You'd have to wonder how it would service a large crowd at the conclusion of a game and still permit traffic North down Nicholson.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70412 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:03 pm to
Well that would be pure stupidity
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:03 pm to
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tourists like to look at them and if you're a property owner by one you benefit from the aesthetic


I take my kids on the streetcars. They dig them. But we aren't going anywhere. Down a few blocks and back.

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But as a public transit option they are not as advertised.


Unless you don't have to be somewhere at a specific time and don't mind sweating balls.

By the way, District Donuts sucks assholes.

Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:03 pm to
It's only going to cost $2.5 million per 100 yards of track. What a bargain!

I doubt ridership will be more than 50k a year. That's $170 per ride even if it's over 30 years.

Incredible.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162876 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
yeah kind of looks like the type of place you pop in on a whim for a drink or 2 before or after you go eat
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36292 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Yes, and that plan was created with the last 10-12 years.



It wasn't that long ago but the master plan before (they're done roughly every 10 years) also anticipated using the old box as mix use that was intended to eventually be connected with downtown. Academic and athletic departments make concessions to each other that is in both of their best interests.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42552 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:04 pm to
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Well to be fair, it would connect the two most densely populated areas.


Actually the densest area is 70805. 70802 is second. 70815 is third.
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:05 pm to
Not only that, but imagine the complaints on people being bypassed as the tram travels south, already full, on it's way to TS.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130884 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:06 pm to
The tram is within 70802.
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 2:08 pm
Posted by Slinky
Member since Dec 2013
3118 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
Not really if you actually put some thought into it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42552 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:07 pm to
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Academic and athletic departments make concessions to each other that is in both of their best interests.


Certainly, but they are both LSU and has nothing to do with the city or the parish.

But I do think now with the advent of the South Campus, the Gateway and the River District and the LSU Museum in the Shaw Center there are talking now when in the past they did not.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70412 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 2:08 pm to
Don't you get it? All the shitty roads that need to be improved are state roads or federal highways! The money spent here is coming from local and federal funds. They CAN'T use this money for state highways. They CAN'T use this money on the interstate. They CAN'T use it on a loop. They also can't use it on schools, libraries, or parks. The sewer system is already being upgraded. The police and fire departments are already well funded, though shittily run. They CAN use this money on passenger rail while getting the feds to fork over an extra $100 million worth of investment.
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