The pronatalist op has begun. It's awesome.

White Christian Natalism?

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It's funny governments think this will help. They will do anything but tackle the core issue of the cost

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Our birth rate dropped long ago, long before cost became an issue. The white birthrate has been below replacement in the cities since the 70's. And after the 80's and 90's that drop spread to rural areas. Rising costs are just accelerating something that already existed. When women went to the workplace en masse after the sexual revolution it ended the traditional family. Many predicted exactly the things that are happening now. The only places you see high birthrates are also places in abject poverty by western standards. Money isn't the issue. The role of women is. If women aren't in the home most of the time, then they're not getting pregnant and raising kids. Nigeria has a standard of living outside of its major cities that Greeks and Romans would consider barbaric and backwards. But they have on average 8 kids per mother. You could enact generous universal income, and men would spend it on PlayStations and women would spend it on name brand luxuries like purses. No one would build houses with it.

Money. Isn't. The Problem. We are. If you really want something, then you'll do what is necessary to get it, sacrificing other things.

I blame over prescription of birth control and births later in life I'm in my forties and the wife wants a second kid.

I'm good for 4x a week of "we have to have a baby so let's have sex" sex.

I'd be good for probably 2-3x a day of "frick me like you paid for it" sex.

The two are not the same.

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vast majority of women don't see raising eight kids as a desirable future if they have any other options.

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Ignoring your '8 kids' qualifier, bullshite. More and more are seeing the emptiness of being a childless office slut. Many of the early pioneers are nearing the end and it's pretty fricking bleak for them, even if they have savings.

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Fun fact: the vast, vast majority of women don't see raising eight kids as a desirable future if they have any other options

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you're being untypically disingenuous

It isn't about having 8 children. That ended w/urbanization and children no longer needed to work the farm.

Many US women do not want to have any children. In a sense this isn't new. In Ancient Rome many noble women tried to have as few children as possible, as childbirth was dangerous and even deadly.

Today, it's not a matter of danger. Many women just don't want the inconvenience of children.

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Many women just don't want the inconvenience of children.

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Possibly an explanation for the uprise in popularity of dogs?

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Pretty sobering documentary by data scientist Steven Shaw.

In the age of AI with prospects of employment dropping, it imprudent to have kids. The more we breed, the more hunger, want, income inequality, poverty and unemployment we will get decades from now.