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re: The pressure to tip is out of control.

Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6841 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Then you get a loogy 


This is the real problem with declining tips.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29001 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:30 pm to
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15% of $12.93 is $1.93. Are we tipping based off the tax too?
Not only that but you have to tip on the tipped amount, and tip on the tipped amount which was tipped on the tipped amount, and...

So if you want to tip 15%, what you have to do is calculate the sum of x=1 to infinity of .15^x and tip 17.6%.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18922 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:32 pm to
I fricking hate to tip. I would much rather my meal just be 20-25% more than to deal with the pressure of tipping.

I get the counter-argument that the wait staff might be less attentive if they don't get tips.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
4366 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:33 pm to
I have a pretty big issue with being prompted to tip before services are even rendered.

Case in point: Pizza Hut
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
55997 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:34 pm to
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that subway asks for a tip now


I don't consider the person making my sammich a tippable worker. Now if there is a waiter/waitress involved that brings me said sammich and keeps my glass full so I don't have to do it, give them a tip. Our Subway around here doesn't provide that service.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
17662 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:36 pm to
I just don’t tip for those untraditional types of tipping transactions.
In the long run it will help that employee. Employers will use this as a way to try and justify paying them less eventually.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:36 pm to
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I get the counter-argument that the wait staff might be less attentive if they don't get tips


The service at low to medium end restaurants would be awful
Posted by Vamos Brandonos
Member since Mar 2022
1021 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:37 pm to
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don’t mind tipping two or three dollars at a fast casual place, but I’m not tipping 20 percent


3 bucks is 20% of 15...how much more are you paying for "fast and casual"?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
18597 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:40 pm to
I wish more places were like brew bachers or George’s.

No waitstaff at all.

I can get my own drink for the machine or go to the bar and get a couple beers. Heck, i will even throw away my own trash and set my plates in a designated area just to pay a flat rate
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18922 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:45 pm to
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would be awful


If we are being honest, it is already probably pretty awful.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284976 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:46 pm to
I don’t mind tipping anyone that is willing to work and actually show engagement right now
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
17492 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:47 pm to
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I would much rather my meal just be 20-25% more than to deal with the pressure of tipping.


Exactly. When I go to a restaurant, it seems like everything is taken into account with the menu prices....rent, insurance, food cost, cooks' wages, electricity,etc. All added except service cost for some reason. Why not just add it into the menu price? When I go to a restaurant, I want to order food, eat, pay for it. I'm not there to determine the cost of the service. That's the restaurant's job and it shouldn't be on me.

Seems like every industry got it down...you go to change a tire, service is included on the listed price. Same for flower shops, same for a pharmacy. But for some reason, it's too hard for the food industry.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2802 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:55 pm to
My wife is a bartender at a pretty popular craft beer and high end burger joint. The local infinity/acura dealership made a $300 take out order.
They insisted that each burger and fry order be individually bagged and labelled with the name of the person who it was for.
My wife, as the bartender also puts together take out orders. It may not seem like it, but what they asked for creates a good deal more work for her, and also caused her to neglect her bar guests.
For all her effort, they tipped her a grand total of 0%. Infinity of Baton Rouge, you suck. If you cant see your way clear to tip, especially when making a bunch of extra work for the person preparing it, then go to fricking McDonald's.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13094 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:55 pm to
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I get the counter-argument that the wait staff might be less attentive if they don't get tips.


That is when you fire them.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13094 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 12:57 pm to
Maybe your wife should get a real job.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2802 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:06 pm to
Maybe you should take you and your fatass wife to McDonald's. Or better yet, come meet me at Sonic, you little bitch. That way you can stuff your cocksucker with some cheap burgers after I stomp a mudhole in your arse.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29001 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:06 pm to
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My wife is a bartender at a pretty popular craft beer and high end burger joint. The local infinity/acura dealership made a $300 take out order.
They insisted that each burger and fry order be individually bagged and labelled with the name of the person who it was for.
My wife, as the bartender also puts together take out orders. It may not seem like it, but what they asked for creates a good deal more work for her, and also caused her to neglect her bar guests.
For all her effort, they tipped her a grand total of 0%. Infinity of Baton Rouge, you suck. If you cant see your way clear to tip, especially when making a bunch of extra work for the person preparing it, then go to fricking McDonald's.
Sounds like your beef should be with your wife's boss who is overworking and underpaying her, rather than with the customer who paid list price for goods received.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2802 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:10 pm to
This is the system we have, and they asked her for an extra service not listed, and apparently expected it for free, which makes them cheap, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29001 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:14 pm to
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This is the system we have
You're complaining about the voluntary part of the system.
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they asked her for an extra service not listed
If it's a pain in the arse to bag an individual meal, maybe the price of that service should be listed.
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and apparently expected it for free
It's not at all unreasonable to expect the cost of packaging to be included in the price of a meal.
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which makes them cheap
Did her boss offer to make up for it?
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and they should be ashamed of themselves.
I don't know, I think I'd be more ashamed of underpaying a vital employee day in and day out.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
898 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:17 pm to
The thing that irritates me about tipping is the percentage. A Waffle House waitress works just as hard if not harder than a Ruth’s Chris waitress but probably makes 10% as much.

If I order a cheap bottle of wine I pay you $3 to open it but if I order a really nice bottle the waiter gets $20-30? Does my steak take more effort to bring to the table than an order of Mac and cheese? If not, why is the tip $10 instead of $2?

This is honestly why we tend to go to fast casual places more often than not. The food is the same quality as sit down places and ends up costing half as much out the door. I can get my own drinks.
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