re: The OT view on California

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I am from alabama and now live in California. I kind of understand the southern hate for us. I think California should be a separate country. Our electoral votes outweigh most of the south so our choices get forced on a conservative area that has fundamental objections to much of our legislation

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This made my brain hurt.

I do find it odd that so many people from the South, many of whom have never visited CA, feel the need to frequently express their hate for the land and people there, and complain about all the laws in CA that have no effect on them. It's puzzling.

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We need to get this thread back to the first page!

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Done.

Laws that don't affect us?

Like Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman running roughshod over the Constitution up there in Washington? Who keeps voting those bitches into office?

Oh, thats right. Our more intelligent cousins in CA. Yeah, yeah... Poli Board. They started it.

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There's a lot of things to like about Cali, but I just hate the government and taxes of that state.

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I have been taxed more in NC than CA or MN. Fricking dog tax, personal auto tax, bus tax.

Then again I am in Chapel Hill which is pretty much the most liberal city outside of Berkeley. I am a born Minnesotan, but have spent time in SD County and now in the Triangle. They all have good and bad qualities. I wish CA had better gun laws, and wasn't so auto dependent, otherwise, San Diego is likely where I will be heading back to. NC has good places, especially West Carolina, but it's humid, and if you aren't used to the pace, it's a slower lifestyle, which isn't for everyone. Minnesota is obvious, it's cold as shite.

And it seems like too many visitors of LA forgot that it's a big town, and it looks nothing like what TV makes it. Stick to the beach next time you all visit. Nothing awesome about the inland.

They be hatin.

I have never been to California, so I try not to judge. But here are my main problems with it and why I could never live there:

1) Absolutely ridiculous gun laws
2) Astronomical income tax rate
3) The 55 electoral votes that you can color a permanent shade of blue.

California is beautiful although it does have its problems. I was born and raised in Louisiana and after having lived elsewhere for the past decade, Louisiana is a shithole. Trust me on that. Although I still love it and it will always be home.

California is a very important state.

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Laws that don't affect us?

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You know, like CA gun laws, their taxation rate, hunting regs, etc. That doesn't affect you in BTR.

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Like Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman running roughshod over the Constitution up there in Washington?

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Pelosi and Waxman are both in the minority party in the House. They can't pass shite unless your Republican majority allows it.

Try again.

I'd move to California in a New York minute if it didn't have the most oppressive, burdensome state government in the country (though Illinois and NY make a strong case for the title).

Not that there are many good state governments. New Hampshire, the Dakotas, Wyoming, and Montana are decent enough.