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re: The Old NOLA East - pictures from the Plaza at Lake Forest

Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:51 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:51 am to
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That sure looks different than it does now. NOLA looks like a pleasant place to raise your kids in those pictures


And Shreveport, Baton Rouge..

Were once decent places for the middle class.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2996 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:01 am to
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NOLA East is an absolute shithole. Pontchartrain Beach closing was the start of it.


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Not disagreeing with you on the first part of your post; but wasn't Pontchartrain Beach in Gentilly? I'm not old enough to have experienced it, unfortunately, so perhaps there was some nexus between Pontchartrain Beach closing down and the East falling into disrepair.



Correct. Pontchartrain Beach was located on the dead end of Elysian Fields, technically north of Gentilly.

It closed in 1983; was supposed to be developed as a lakefront/waterside condo development with its own marina/slips etc. Never happened, due to lingering effects of early 1980s oil bust on residential property. UNO got the site and developed the research park there.

While the time frame is similar, there is no causal nexus between Pontchartrain Beach closing and New Orleans East declining.
Posted by Michael T. Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
8888 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:07 am to
My grandmother lived in a high-rise retirement complex in the East back in the '80s. We visited her all the time and would take her and her friends out to eat around the area. My friends and I would also frequent the Plaza.

I'm no longer amazed, just sad at how awful things are there now...and absolutely there are many factors as to why.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60659 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:09 am to
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Were once decent places for the middle class.

They were decent places for poor people, when poor people were decent
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:12 am to
STFU bella!

Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60659 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:13 am to
Good morning, Goats

Nice to see you are alive and well
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:14 am to
Same to you!
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33362 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:14 am to
quote:

Correct. Pontchartrain Beach was located on the dead end of Elysian Fields, technically north of Gentilly.

It closed in 1983; was supposed to be developed as a lakefront/waterside condo development with its own marina/slips etc. Never happened, due to lingering effects of early 1980s oil bust on residential property. UNO got the site and developed the research park there.

While the time frame is similar, there is no causal nexus between Pontchartrain Beach closing and New Orleans East declining.


Thanks for this informative explanation.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
5056 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:16 am to
I wish Anthony Mackie all the best on his future endeavor.

Has anyone been hit by a stray bullet at Dixie (whatever it’s called now) Brewery yet?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:18 am to
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Not really sure if that coincides bc I don’t remember pontchartrain beach - but the demise of New Orleans in general - like almost all cities - is affordable or free housing. I’m not sure when all those apartments in the East went section 8 - but that was it

Section 8 destroys all. And our current potato President campaigned (to the extent he campaigned at all) on bringing more lovely “affordable housing” to a suburb near you!
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:21 am to
Are you just trying to get us banned?
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So what are the reasons?

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Yeah, there's crime, abandoned building, and a whole lot of black/minorities that live there.


You’ve already answered your own question. And it’s the same answer to the same question which can be asked about countless other towns and cities throughout the country.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102788 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:28 am to
People in those older pics always look genuinely way more happy than people today.

Almost as if a safe, lawful society full of healthy fit people who interact with each other in person rather than social media, do fun activities not involving a tv and couch, and spends time with friends and family leads to happiness
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60659 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:31 am to
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Section 8 destroys all.

Between the greedy, unethical landlords and the horrible, entitled tenants - I’m surprised most urban areas still exist
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20431 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:38 am to
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While the time frame is similar, there is no causal nexus between Pontchartrain Beach closing and New Orleans East declining.


Dark times indeed.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70746 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:42 am to
Spent many a day there. Thats where us folks from Chalmette when to shop. I remember being young and feeling like it took 2 hours to get there because hadnt opened the hwy/interstate there yet I guess. Then it was amazing when that was opened.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5762 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:48 am to
The east was fine through the 90s. Another contributing factor to the demise were several bad storms then Hurricane George in ‘98 knocking out most of the remaining camps along the lakefront. No reason for hundreds of families to go to the east on weekends certainly had a negative impact.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5762 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:50 am to
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when poor people were decent


Just because you’re poor doesn’t mean you can’t sweep.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
74897 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:51 am to
Orange Julius
Record Bar
Karmelkorn
Plaza 4 plex theater
Farrell’s with that huge ice cream sundae
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1911 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Can't quite put my finger on as to why things changed in Nola East?


Mitchell Homes, big, big houses, itty bitty prices!
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20052 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 12:07 pm to
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. Pontchartrain Beach closing was the start of it.


That statement tells me you don't know shite about how N.O. East went downhill. Pontchartrain Beach was located at the end of Elysian Fields on Lakeshore Drive near what is now the U.N.O. campus----far removed from N.O. East.

The beach located off Hayne Blvd. was called Lincoln Beach and that was near the end where it makes that sharp right hand turn to head to the interstate or St. Bernard.

Lincoln Beach was the "Black" beach back in the day since Pontchartrain Beach was the "White" beach and amusement park back in the old Jim Crow days of N.O. life.
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 12:09 pm
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