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re: The most technologically advanced weapon of its day

Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:02 am to
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:02 am to
I don't disagree with your research on this topic. Nonetheless, you need to get laid.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:03 am to
If history was still taught in schools, perhaps the newer generations would learn that it isn't the instrument that kills.

It's man. It's been that way for generations. They can't change it.
Posted by Graham Wellington Jr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
916 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:06 am to
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Are you suggesting the mongol horse archer wasn’t ridiculously advanced for its day?


He wasn't talking about the Mongol's time period, so this doesn't apply. His example was 2000 years earlier.

Mongol archers and nukes weren't around in the specific time period that this thread is about.
Posted by Graham Wellington Jr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:09 am to
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I meant that the Mongols dominated 1300 years after the trireme had been invented.


Longer than that. The Mongol empire was founded in 1206.


quote:

As a ship it was fast and agile, and it was the dominant warship in the Mediterranean during the 7th to 4th centuries BC,
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:10 am to
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ready for a long easy siege on their part.


I thought you said they have to be pulled ashore every night? Doesn’t make for much of a siege
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:33 am to
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most technologically advanced weapon of its day


quote:

the trireme


quote:

athenslife101


Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20645 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:38 am to
Yeah, it’s hard to say exactly when it was upgraded from a bireme. I saw 800s BC. But if you quantify that by 0, most major navies were quaremes, I am guesstimating
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20645 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 12:39 am to
Eh, drop a couple of hundred soldiers off on the beach and then rotate ships from beaches to harbor. Just an example
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 12:42 am
Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3147 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:09 am to
Pretty good post, I would disagree with this statement:

quote:

represented democracy where rowers of all wealth levels rowed side by side.


The underrowers were not usually citizens and were not in fact side by side with those respected in the cities.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:17 am to
Earth = Flat
That boat = Crap
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
9338 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:24 am to

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That sounds far but I think it’s only about a mile.

Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20645 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 1:35 am to
The factoid I saw was in reference to Athenians. It may not be correct but Athens used those ships for 400 years so IDK. Maybe it’s wrong.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 1:44 am
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 6:56 am to
The “Rods of God”...... hard to beat if ever used. Space treaty “prohibits” such use even though it’s already in existence and ready to use at the drop of a dime.

Merica.... Come at us broseph!

Wiki.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5350 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:27 am to
The bow and arrow
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14477 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 7:36 am to
Yes, Athens did have and empire. Here’s just one of many sources
LINK
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:15 am to
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The “Rods of God”


Well I just went down a rabbit hole reading about this. Seems to be unclear if it’s use is actually banned by the treaty as the treaty specifies the ban of WMDs. As these rods have no payload, the thought is that the current treaty would not apply.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:23 am to
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Over 6000 man days was needed to construct one



16 years? Can this be true?
Posted by Hog Zealot
On the Flats
Member since Mar 2012
1805 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:28 am to
If it was 1 man building the boat, yes 16 years. 2 men 8 years. 6000 men could build it in a day.

Edit typo.
This post was edited on 6/30/18 at 8:30 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39230 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 8:58 am to
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Space treaty “prohibits” such use


Actually, no it does not. The space treaty does not mention kinetic weapons in its terminology. Therefore, theoretically, the rod of god (if it is real) does not apply to the space treaty terms.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
12217 posts
Posted on 6/30/18 at 10:10 am to
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Athens used those ships for 400 years


Where did the wood come from?

You don't grow massive trees rapidly, especially in 'mediterranean' rainfall climates.

(The Brits planted trees somewhere in Eastern Canada so they'd have replacement masts in a hundred years or so, only when the trees were getting to the right height, ships were metal and no longer sailing.)
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