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Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:21 pm to Deactived
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I got my entergy bill a few days ago and was like Holy shite. It matched the worse of summer
My electric provider sent me what I could only assume was an errant bill based on the usage. It was double what I used in Nov, and over double what I used in Dec 2022. Luckily they fixed it when I brought up how out of the ordinary the usage was.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:34 pm to Korkstand
Not in the power industry itself. Not much incentive for asking customers to be efficient.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:43 pm to LNCHBOX
My gas was the high charge. I assumed it was the heater
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:44 pm to Joshjrn
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Reversible heat pump AC systems are the way in warm weather areas like Louisiana. Just as effective, vastly more efficient, and no burning dust smell the first time you fire it up for the year like you get with resistive heating.
Electric heat is 100% efficient. I hate electric heat, but 100% of the electricity that goes into a heat strip is converted to heat.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:48 pm to ell_13
Electric heat is trash, as far as I know. Heat pumps are a joke.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:50 pm to td1
quote:And that is not that great. That is a CoP of 1 whereas an AC unit might have a CoP of 3.50 or so.
Electric heat is 100% efficient. I hate electric heat, but 100% of the electricity that goes into a heat strip is converted to heat.
Air conditioners and heat pumps *move* existing heat from inside to outside or vice-versa. Generating new heat is far less efficient.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:51 pm to ell_13
quote:Sometimes there is. Haven't some power companies tapped into customers' thermostats to turn them up in the summer?
Not in the power industry itself. Not much incentive for asking customers to be efficient.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:55 pm to Korkstand
quote:Theres no money in causing a brownout. But those are rare cases when a heat or cold snap takes place outside of norms (most turnarounds are scheduled during the fall and spring to avoid this). And those are distribution companies trying to keep their own bills down not the generation companies who’s bottom line is determined by these peaks.
Haven't some power companies tapped into customers' thermostats to turn them up in the summer?
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:57 pm to Korkstand
quote:The formula is also only considering the heat being generated in metal. Getting the heat into the air is different for a combustible vs moving air through a coil.
Generating new heat is far less efficient.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:59 pm to ell_13
if HVAC is the biggest utility ussage, by simple (sensible heat) change in temp will tell you you need more power:
20 degrees to 68 degrees = 48 degrees
98 degrees to 72 degrees = 36 degrees
the largest the temperature difference, the greater the heat transfer, and the more work needed
*** however, latent heat change (dehumidification) is additional work
20 degrees to 68 degrees = 48 degrees
98 degrees to 72 degrees = 36 degrees
the largest the temperature difference, the greater the heat transfer, and the more work needed
*** however, latent heat change (dehumidification) is additional work
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:00 pm to ell_13
Do you know whether it's always about new generation capacity, or if storage is beginning to be a topic?
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:11 pm to Korkstand
Storage comes and goes at the residential level(battery banks supplied with solar supplemented with a natural gas generator was one solution a company attempted to pilot). For generators, the market requires a certain amount of realtime availability black start availability. Nuclear is the baseload. They are either at 0% or 100% so they can’t follow a setpoint. Gas generators are most efficient here and go up and down based on load and market prices. Coal can follow a setpoint but it’s much less reliable depending on many factors. But a 500 MW coal unit may only be running at 300 MW in the morning with 200 MW ready for use as people wake up and the realtime price increases.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:25 pm to td1
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Electric heat is 100% efficient. I hate electric heat, but 100% of the electricity that goes into a heat strip is converted to heat.
If you think 1x is impressive, look into heat pumps. They are basically magic by comparison
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:52 pm to ell_13
My most expensive light bill of the year is ALWAYS for the coldest month of the winter.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 3:01 pm to dyslexiateechur
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Yeah well my highest bill in summer is $1200 and my highest bill in winter is $700
Im the opposite, but i cant stand the cold. And im at home more in the winter and inside more during the winter because its pitch black and cold when i get home from work.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 4:26 pm to dgnx6
I'm all electric. I keep a power consumption spreadsheet that goes back 10 yrs. Power consumption in 1st half of the year is always approximately equal to 2nd half consumption within + or - 3%.
Posted on 1/17/24 at 4:57 pm to LNCHBOX
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Luckily they fixed it when I brought up how out of the ordinary the usage was.
I wish the water company would do that....I've run round about 15000 gallons of water a month in this house since I bought it in 2016. In Nov of 2023 they billed me for 60000 gallons....I told them the only way that is possible is if I had a leak and by God if I had a leak that bad I would damn well know it. They said nope that's what the meter said...I said bullshite....in December 2023 it went back to about 15K gallons. After that December bill they came and daisy chained what they said was a "good" meter to my meter....I've been recording the readings myself for about 3 weeks now and the "new meter" is reading less that what my old meter says.
LAWCO doesn't know their arse from a hole in the ground.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:39 am to LSU316
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I've run round about 15000 gallons of water a month in this house since I bought it in 2016
That seems pretty high. Do you water your lawn year-round? Do you live with 12 people? I'm with you, I think your actual usage is probably half that.
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In Nov of 2023 they billed me for 60000 gallons....I told them the only way that is possible is if I had a leak and by God if I had a leak that bad I would damn well know it.
That's enough water to fill your entire house 3 feet deep. Or enough that you'd need rubber boots to walk in the yard.
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:45 am to ell_13
Louisiana’s peak demand for electricity ( Megawatts ) is in August of every year !!
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