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Posted on 7/21/16 at 6:31 pm to cincyykid
One huge difference between then and now: back then, the average person took ONE BATH PER YEAR.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:19 pm to Mars duMorgue
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the average person took ONE BATH PER YEAR.
I think that was still the case the last time I rode the Paris metro in summer time.
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:22 pm to Mars duMorgue
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One huge difference between then and now: back then, the average person took ONE BATH PER YEAR.
That's complete and total bullshite. You don't think people took a dip in a stream or lake When they were dirty? That they just walked around with shite on them all day?
Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.
Unless I wrote it. Then it's probably true.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:22 pm to terd ferguson
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They were just ridding the world of witches. Who the frick wants to live in a world full of witches?
I would if they looked like Piper, Phoebe, and Paige.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:24 pm to Honky Lips
I was actually reading on the Internet and learning about all of the gruesome torture tools they used on people and how often the beheaded and dismembered people. Whenever a peasant witnessed a crime he was tortured no matter what because they believed peasants were incapable to tell the truth without torture first.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:31 pm to cincyykid
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:34 pm to chinese58
Yea that's why I ignore all the "end of the world" talk that been happening lately. Like, wtf you think those ppl thought back then.
Lemme carry my family's shite to the street then cook the cat for dinner.
Lemme carry my family's shite to the street then cook the cat for dinner.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 7:43 pm to fr33manator
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Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.
Did not read on the Internet. Learned this in a discussion I had with a history professor at UCL on a tour of the Globe Theater in London. In fact, this was one reason the peasantry was segregated from the rich folk during performances at the Globe. The rich complained that the peasants carried fleas and threatened to boycott the theater unless something was done. Segregation, not baths, was considered a sutable solution.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:04 pm to cincyykid
This is a really good read for those interested in that time period...
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:29 pm to cincyykid
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It's hilarious to me how they called the mongols barbarians and savages meanwhile they're burning people alive and dismembering people for not having the same beliefs as there's.
If your entire city was given the choice of surrendering (only to have every male executed and every female enslaved/raped) or fight, lose, and have everyone killed you might call them barbarians too.
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Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:31 pm to Mars duMorgue
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Did not read on the Internet. Learned this in a discussion I had with a history professor at UCL on a tour of the Globe Theater in London. In fact, this was one reason the peasantry was segregated from the rich folk during performances at the Globe. The rich complained that the peasants carried fleas and threatened to boycott the theater unless something was done. Segregation, not baths, was considered a sutable solution.
Do you really think that people back then were so ignorant that they wouldn't wash themselves off from time to time? Really?
So some peasant is literally caked in mud and shite and you honestly think he wouldn't have the wherewithal to find some body of water and wash some of it off? Or walk out in the rain? Splash in a puddle?
I mean, if you are defining "bath" as some narrow definition meaning hot water and soap in some sort of container, then you can't be helped.
People did wash. Not as often as we do simply out of lack of convenience but often enough to not be caked in dung.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:52 pm to yurintroubl
A number of errors in Manchester's book and his overall description of the mentality of the people has been proven to be wrong. The book was mostly based on his antagonism of Christianity.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:54 pm to cincyykid
quote:If you think the way people died in the Dark Ages of the fallen Roman Empire was bad, you should read up on how people were dying in the rest of the world.
And so did the Renaissance to a degree. Reading up on all of the horrible way people died back then and how corrupt the church is sickening.
The glamorous part of the Dark Ages is that Christianity helped preserve the roots of civilization that advanced music, art, science, human rights and social order that we have capitalized on to build our modern Western civilization.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 8:56 pm to Mars duMorgue
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One huge difference between then and now: back then, the average person took ONE BATH PER YEAR.
Why even bother? Once a year.. I wonder if it was something they couldn't wait for.. like Christmas or some shite.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:28 pm to cincyykid
I've never understood the romanticism with the dark ages.
Posted on 7/21/16 at 9:48 pm to fr33manator
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I mean, if you are defining "bath" as some narrow definition meaning hot water and soap in some sort of container, then you can't be helped.
I'm afraid we didn't get into a clinical analysis and definition of "bath" in our discussion. Pity.
However, it's certainly the case that a bath at that time was indeed different from, say, washing mud off one's body. The very fact that a bath was an annual event implies that it was a more thorough and comprehensive cleansing process than ordinary washing--including presumably the use of cleansing agents such as soap or a similar substance.
You assert that people of the time did wash. I assert that a bath, properly speaking, was of a different order entirely from rinsing oneself of mud or dung, and that the two procedures should not be confused.
Now–and pardon me if you find this hard to believe–the truth is I have little interest in pursuing this matter. You'll have to conduct further investigation on your own.
I imagine there is some arcane literature somewhere on the subject of medieval hygiene--good luck there. Or perhaps you can write University College London, or even visit the Globe Theater should your curiosity in the matter reach the utmost extreme.
Whatever you do, however, I insist that you avoid seeking information on the Internet. You can't believe everything you read there.
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