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re: The Michigan high school shooter's parents are on the run (now arrested and in custody)
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:43 am to gizmothepug
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:43 am to gizmothepug
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Not always, because if this was one of the numerous black on black killings that happen in larger population areas across the country every day then we wouldn’t even be talking about it because no one in the media would give a shite.
And no DA in the country would care if the shooter stole the gun out of his dad's sock drawer.
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Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:44 am to hikingfan
this the new brian laundrie case?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 12:48 am to pioneerbasketball
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this the new brian laundrie case?
Doubtful. I think the news is just happy these parents are on the lamb so they can demonize lawful gun owners.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:10 am to Dr RC
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They gave him the gun, knew he was having major issues, refused to do shite about it, and prevented the school from doing anything about it. They 100% should be in jail. Boo fricking hoo for them. They are the kinds of gun owners who ruin it for everyone else. frick them.
I get that, but where does it end? What stops a fricktard for a parent claiming the same thing when the parent actually told them to do it? And we wouldn’t need more prisons if children were actually raised in a TWO parent household. I just have a hard time convicting two people for involuntary manslaughter when those two people weren’t present when it happened.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:12 am to imjustafatkid
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I think the news is just happy these parents are on the lamb
I don't think the parents are doing this:
All indications point to them being on the lam.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:40 am to Obtuse1
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I don't think the parents are doing this:
All indications point to them being on the lam.
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Obtuse1
Checks out.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 1:45 am to imjustafatkid
Parents have been arrested in Detroit.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:43 am to gizmothepug
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I get that, but where does it end? What stops a fricktard for a parent claiming the same thing when the parent actually told them to do it? And we wouldn’t need more prisons if children were actually raised in a TWO parent household. I just have a hard time convicting two people for involuntary manslaughter when those two people weren’t present when it happened.
Well, to be fair this was a kid from a two parent household. Unfortunately for him it was two parents who are terrible people.
As far as where does it end? There’s a lot of evidence in this case already that we know (and I’m sure a ton that we don’t know) that points to parents who did nothing to stop their kid from shooting up the school. That he had made videos, posted pictures, written content, etc. suggesting he was going to shoot up this school. And the parents knew about it. Even to the degree that the Mom text to him “don’t do it” about the time the shooting started. Forget them buying the gun for him for a minute. Once the school pulled them in and pointed out he was having significant enough mental health issues that he needed a therapist in 48 hours, and the family denied any intervention OR to tell them of his access to a firearm, parental negligence comes into play. And sadly, it happens all of the time but folks are never willing to hold the parents legally responsible when they should be.
When it’s all said and done, the school is going to take a hit as well. If it doesn’t come in a criminal charge (I can’t speak for typical procedure in their county when handling a mental health crisis) it’s going to come in people being sued in civil court and likely the loss of licensure.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 5:51 am to dallastigers
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Either the nature of what the school truly communicated and emphasized to parents is being exaggerated, or the school handled it so incompetently that those in charge of it at the school should be investigated.
IMO it’s going to depend on the district’s policy for how they handle these things.
The last one of these I encountered at work, the kid had drawn up a “hit list” and a map of the school. Another kid happened to see it. We pulled the kid in, called the parents, and our district allows us to tell the parent that they can either let us call a mobile assessment (this may not be available in more rural areas) or they can take them to a professional of their choosing to be cleared before returning to school. YOU DO NOT SEND THAT KID BACK TO CLASS. The parents allowed the mobile assessment and the kid ended up inpatient for a month. We were also allowed to search their bag, but that’s policy has been challenged unsuccessfully a few times on the district level.
But that’s no different then for a kid that is having a suicidal ideation and/or a suicide plan.
I lean on the incompetence of the school versus it not being serious (what I read he wrote we would take very seriously). And the lack of mental health policy in the school system there. This sounds more like a systematic failure. It doesn’t make the parents any less culpable but the school should be taking heat as well.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 5:56 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:03 am to tigerfan88
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It’s not just giving him the gun. The parents knew there was a decent possibility he would commit a mass shooting and not only did nothing to stop it but actively prevented the school from stopping it.
Yep, these parents should be punished for the best reason: to warn others that there are consequences of irresponsible behavior that puts others at risk.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:35 am to gizmothepug
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Did the black kid in Texas parents, or lack there of get charged with anything?
has zero to do with the laws in Michigan though like I said if it can be shown you gave a gun to a minor (and in the Michigan case it looks they clearly did) w/said minor going on to commit a shooting well then, sorry straight to jail.
You want responsible gun owners? Then the laws have to frick you the hell up when bad shite happens. Otherwise you'll get stupid shits like these parents giving a disturbed child a weapon.
This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 6:43 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 6:59 am to hikingfan
They were arrested earlier this a.m. in Detroit while hiding out in a warehouse.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 7:02 am to Dr RC
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You want responsible gun owners? Then the laws have to frick you the hell up when bad shite happens. Otherwise you'll get stupid shits like these parents giving a disturbed child a weapon.
What if he chose to draw a picture of him running over someone with a car. Would the parents get arrested if he stole the keys out of his moms purse snd went run over people at a parade? Just wondering if this applies to guns only or everything???
Posted on 12/4/21 at 7:03 am to diat150
quote:well he didn't steal the gun so any point you think you made is invalid
Would the parents get arrested if he stole the keys out of his moms purse snd went run over people at a parade?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 7:05 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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well he didn't steal the gun so any point you think you made is invalid
I thought the gun was in his dads nightstand?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 7:20 am to diat150
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This post was edited on 12/4/21 at 7:47 am
Posted on 12/4/21 at 7:45 am to Red Stick Tigress
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They were arrested earlier this a.m. in Detroit while hiding out in a warehouse.
To further magnify what awful people these two are, they’re 15 year old son sits in jail while they go on the lam to try and protect their own hides. This poor kid had no chance the moment he was conceived. And yes, I said poor kid. He committed an awful act and should be punished, Hutu can show him some empathy for a shitty upbringing.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:18 am to diat150
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What if he chose to draw a picture of him running over someone with a car. Would the parents get arrested if he stole the keys out of his moms purse snd went run over people at a parade? Just wondering if this applies to guns only or everything???
While I agree that a car can be just as lethal as a gun (and even more lethal under certain conditions), there is a reason why guns are generally considered weapons and cars are not.
Until 10K people per year start dying by being run over by homicidal maniacs, I don’t think your point is valid.
Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:27 am to diat150
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What if he chose to draw a picture of him running over someone with a car. Would the parents get arrested if he stole the keys out of his moms purse snd went run over people at a parade? Just wondering if this applies to guns only or everything???
Did the parents just buy him a car 4 days earlier and the car is at school?
Posted on 12/4/21 at 8:32 am to BluegrassBelle
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Would’ve prompted admin to tell the parents he couldn’t return to school until he was seen and cleared by a mental health professional. Or we would offer to call in a mobile assessment.
It would have also prompted us to search his backpack ourselves. And if the parents refused to get him help, a CPS call would be coming. Security would’ve been called to remove them from the property (kid included) if they didn’t leave when we requested. There’d be no staying at school.
Lots of people going to get wrapped up in this. Parents included.
If we are charging the parents for not acting, it’s hard to argue that we shouldn’t charge the school officials for the same lack of action.
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