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The inimitable Ben Watson's commentary on yesterday's events.

Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:56 am
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:56 am
I would add that the john's are NOT innocent bystanders.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 8:58 am to
I mean he isn't wrong

I couldnt imagine coming to America for a chance to live here only to find out I'm gonna be used as a sex toy for the locals
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:01 am to
Inb4 the "prostitution should be legal, tax it, and all will be legit" crowd.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:02 am to
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mean he isn't wrong

I couldnt imagine coming to America for a chance to live here only to find out I'm gonna be used as a sex toy for the locals


I totally agree, but people are ignorant. I doubt every dude that goes and gets a handy thinks deeply about sex trafficking and that the girl they are paying isn't doing this under free will.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:04 am to
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nb4 the "prostitution should be legal, tax it, and all will be legit" crowd.

While all won’t be legit in an industry like that, your scenario is better than what is occurring now.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:09 am to
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I totally agree, but people are ignorant. I doubt every dude that goes and gets a handy thinks deeply about sex trafficking and that the girl they are paying isn't doing this under free will.




Kraft graduated as Student President of Columbia and got an MBA from Harvard. There is no way he was not savvy enough to be aware of the likelihood that women in a strip mall massage parlor which advertised table showers and who did not speak English were actually there by force or coercion. In my opinion, sex with one of these women with that knowledge makes one guilty of rape and not merely solicitation.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:12 am to
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quote:
nb4 the "prostitution should be legal, tax it, and all will be legit" crowd.
While all won’t be legit in an industry like that, your scenario is better than what is occurring now.



Just one example of why that thinking may be flawed. Prostitution is legal in Germany. The illegal human trafficking is just as bad but the legalization makes it easier to hide.
https://www.trauma-and-prostitution.eu/en/2018/06/19/the-german-model-17-years-after-the-legalization-of-prostitution/
https://www.dw.com/en/german-police-launch-crackdown-on-human-trafficking-organized-crime/a-43430180
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:13 am to
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In my opinion, sex with one of these women with that knowledge makes one guilty of rape and not merely solicitation.


Please keep us informed when either the prosecution or the defense gets in touch with you for this.

The man's formal education ended about 50 years ago. In my opinion, that's long enough for him not to know about things like sex trafficking.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 9:15 am to
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Please keep us informed when either the prosecution or the defense gets in touch with you for this.

The man's formal education ended about 50 years ago. In my opinion, that's long enough for him not to know about things like sex trafficking. maybe he always gives six figures to organizations which fight things of which he is not aware.




He won't be charged for it and I have zero idea if he was that dense and ill-informed. But the bottom line is that if you go to one of those place you are more likely than not supporting human trafficking.

https://deadspin.com/robert-kraft-donated-100-000-to-a-massachusetts-anti-s-1832829075
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:12 am to
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Kraft graduated as Student President of Columbia and got an MBA from Harvard. There is no way he was not savvy enough to be aware of the likelihood that women in a strip mall massage parlor which advertised table showers and who did not speak English were actually there by force or coercion. In my opinion, sex with one of these women with that knowledge makes one guilty of rape and not merely solicitation.






Here you are preaching against hand jobs in spas, when yesterday you were supporting the DKE hazings.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:44 am to
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Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:45 am to
The only way to stop a bad guy with a prostitute is with a good guy with a prostitute.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:50 am to
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But the bottom line is that if you go to one of those place you are more likely than not supporting human trafficking. 


That is about as dumb as saying if you vote Democrat you are supporting human trafficking.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:53 am to
Watson is so fricking annoying. Hes like the earnest attention whore girl from high school that regales everyone with her opinions on Facebook 3 times a week.
This post was edited on 2/23/19 at 10:55 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
92322 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:56 am to
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Human trafficking is a $150B industry
I'm in the wrong industry.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Here you are preaching against hand jobs in spas, when yesterday you were supporting the DKE hazings.


Please quote me where I said I was supporting them. My contention there was that no one who pledged should have been surprised of shocked. I also said and have said it was not my cup of tea and I would not want my son to be a member.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 10:58 am to
quote:

quote:
But the bottom line is that if you go to one of those place you are more likely than not supporting human trafficking. 


That is about as dumb as saying if you vote Democrat you are supporting human trafficking.



Your logic is as clear as the complexion on Michael Moore's arse.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13688 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 12:07 pm to
Or theyre just thinking of getting their whistle wet and the thought of a "sex trafficking" ring never enters their mind. No way any law enforcement even broaches the subject of Kraft "supporting" the sex trafficking industry unless they can prove he was bankrolling it. He was just a john.

The bigger idiocy imo is why a billionaire is going to a hole in the wall joint in the first place. Theyve got people for that kind of thing with absolutley no chance of the outside world learning of it. Thats just stupid on his part.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49696 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 12:23 pm to
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I totally agree, but people are ignorant. I doubt every dude that goes and gets a handy thinks deeply about sex trafficking and that the girl they are paying isn't doing this under free will.




Well they should.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 2/23/19 at 12:33 pm to
I feel for these poor victimized women.
Illegal brought into our country while our country turns a blind eye to the trafficking of people. Then these women are forced into the sex trade because they fear the implications of being here illegally.
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