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The home selling realtor setup is unfair to sellers and buyers

Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4810 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:34 pm
Got a house on the market. Had lookers last week. The response from the buyers realtor to our realtor was “they like it and are deciding. Let us know if you get an offer or another interested party”.

I can’t speak to the buyer and can only get what limited info their realtor decides to give out. Conversely, I’d probably go down on the price or toss in other incentives if that’s what the buyer needed. This realtor charade really is a racket where you’re at the mercy of intermediaries who spend more time protecting their roles than looking out for their customers.

Is there a better process for buyers and sellers?
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7957 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:35 pm to
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Is there a better process for buyers and sellers?


FSBO
This post was edited on 4/16/23 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58645 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:37 pm to
I don’t see the big deal.. They’re thinking it over and probably crunching numbers and would like to know if there’s another offer incoming. Not that unreasonable
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3829 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:38 pm to
We just went through that process. Slimey all the way. I distrust realtors tremendously and for good reason. They wan to churn and burn and 5pct less on my house is nothing to them if it sells faster.

Also they know all the tricks - give the seller closing fees, don't take the price down. That cuts into teh commish.

Posted by BThibodeaux
Member since Jun 2005
111 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:38 pm to
Depends on your location. If you are in BR or NOLA, investigate Falaya.
Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:38 pm to
Sell by owner. Save the 3-6% fees or whatever the rate is these days from realtors.

Can market your home many places online free these days too.

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8223 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:39 pm to
Hire a better realtor that will push the other realtor into jumping on it?

Sounds like the buyer’s realtor is smart. Hey, they aren’t sure if they want it, but if you get another offer, let me know so I can make sure they are fine letting it go.

I mean, sounds like exactly what you pay a realtor to do.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27505 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Is there a better process for buyers and sellers?
do what the realtors do: lie to them and say you have several offers including 1 above asking price and another that the person is going to resubmit their offer tomorrow.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4465 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:39 pm to
Realtors (99% of them) are all slime balls that watch way too much million dollar listing and think they can do the same.

Go FSBO and handle it on your own. That way you can negotiate directly.

Unfortunately both realtors typically have their best interests in mind vs their clients.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
2913 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:40 pm to
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FSBO


I’ve never used an agent/realtor to sell anything. That’s a lot of money to give someone that doesn’t solely work for me.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:42 pm to
There is no law saying that a seller has to use a realtor. Also no law saying a buyer has to use a realtor.
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7600 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:45 pm to
The week after I closed on my house my realtor booked an Alaskan cruise. That’s when I knew.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27827 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:52 pm to
I mean it’s a racket but the agents are both incentivized to get you and the buyer to transact. They are not going to try to talk either of you out of the deal.

If you are wanting to negotiate just tell your agent you’re interested in a quick sell for them to make you an offer below asking.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8009 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:52 pm to
For all the FSBO answers, I have a question...

Is MLS not important?

Do you realize even apps like Zillow seperate the MLS from the FSBO and most people dont even realize they are separated and the FSBO exists? I find it dirty and they didnt do this until last year.

How do you do FSBO and get views?
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27827 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:53 pm to
You can pay a small fee for an mls listing without an agent.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
8009 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 2:59 pm to
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You can pay a small fee for an mls listing without an agent.


I guess then pay the buyers agent...

So how do you advertise and get eyeballs without involving an agent?

If I wanted maximum exposure without involving any agent, there has to be something better than FSBO.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22690 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:03 pm to
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The week after I closed on my house my realtor booked an Alaskan cruise. That’s when I knew.


Knew what? That your realtor likes cruises?
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167336 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:10 pm to
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The home selling realtor setup is unfair to sellers and buyers



There is a massive lawsuit against NAR that will potentially change the way Realtors operate



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Overview 1. What is this lawsuit about? NAR has promulgated a series of rules, policies, and practices that have been widely adopted by its members which have resulted in a lessening competition among real estate brokers to the detriment of American home buyers. These rules, policies, and practices include:

Prohibiting multiple listing services (“MLSs”) from disclosing to prospective buyers the amount of commission that the buyer broker will earn if the buyer purchases a home listed on the MLS (“NAR’s Commission Concealment Rules”);

Allowing buyer brokers to mislead buyers into thinking that buyer broker services are free (“NAR’s Free-Service Rule”);

Enabling buyer brokers to filter MLS listings based on the level of buyer broker commissions offered and to exclude homes with lower commissions from consideration by potential home buyers (“NAR’s Commission-Filter Rules and Practices”); and

Limiting access to lockboxes that provide licensed brokers physical access to a home that is for sale to only those real estate brokers who are members of a NAR-affiliated MLS (“NAR’s Lockbox Policy”).



LINK


Monumental NAR lawsuit snags class action status


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The lawsuit claims a requirement for sellers to make “blanket unilateral offers of compensation” to buyer brokers when a home is placed for sale on a multiple listing service violates the law. The plaintiffs said the system pressures sellers to offer high commissions to bring in buyers’ brokers.
Posted by BThibodeaux
Member since Jun 2005
111 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:11 pm to
The biggest advantage a company like Falaya has over FSBO is the MLS listing. It amplifies exposure.
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7600 posts
Posted on 4/16/23 at 3:11 pm to
That i funded her cruise. Found the house on my own. Contacted her as she was a friend to see the house the next day. Made offer that same day and was accepted 3 hours later. Closed and moved in 18 days later. She was a friend so I was happy to help.
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