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re: The High Cost of a Home Is Turning American Millennials Into the New Serfs

Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
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another thread, another pointless alaskan anecdote!


You're like 21.

This is New York


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Union apprentices at Local 1 start at $14 an hour and make more than $50 per hour after completing a five-year apprenticeship and passing a test to advance to journeyman plumber status, Mr. Murphy said. Experienced plumbers can make $200,000 a year, he said — but that typically means many hours on the job.Mar 24, 201


Denver

Seattle

This is just plumbers, since you brought it up

Good wage, overtime, pension, insurance



Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:03 pm to
Yeah I'm single making pretty decent money for my first job out of school. dont feel like living with a roommate. Don't think i could afford to buy house that would be where I would want to live. Have no problem renting until I get my PE and a pay bump.

ETA: I could definitely afford it, but I'm choosing to save a pretty good bit in my retirement accounts right now
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:04 pm to
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Juneau, Alaska is probably one of the worst places to use as a comparison to pretty much anywhere else in the USA..


What about California? Washington? The northeast? Denver?
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6084 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:04 pm to
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the average plumber makes about $23/hour the average welder makes $18.50



This looks off
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37579 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:06 pm to
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Is that commonplace? I just checked a handful of NOLA plumber job postings on Indeed and several mentioned health insurance and 401Ks


Alot do, alot don't. It really just depends, but there's no doubt that less tradesman get benefits on average than "professionals." If you're an accountant that doesn't have their own shop it's pretty much guranteed you would have benefits. Of course it's not 100%, but not having benefits would be the exception not the rule.

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The hypothetical skilled tradesman has a lot lower risk, as well. The 6 year college graduation rate is 60%. Plenty of people don't make it. If you can't keep a job as a plumber or electrician, then you sure as shite weren't going to make it in college.



There's certaintly nothing wrong with being a tradesman. We need them and they can make an honest living. Some can even do really well for themselves, but many on this board think that being in a trade is equivalent to having a good college degree. Having to travel and work longer hours for the same or less money is not desirable for most people.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:07 pm to
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This looks off


They're probably including apprentices, and people loosely associated with the industry
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:07 pm to
And most posters live in La I'd guess so the oilfield and plants kind of skew those numbers
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50506 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:10 pm to
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but many on this board think that being in a trade is equivalent to having a good college degree.


I don't know about that. I think that a lot of posters simply recognize it as a better alternative to getting deeply in debt for a liberal arts degree that is unlikely to pay for itself.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61622 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:11 pm to
Another anecdote

You know better than the BLS
Posted by Pueblo Battle
E Tx
Member since Jun 2017
261 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:13 pm to
What exactly is the age of a millennial??
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:20 pm to
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You know better than the BLS


You don't understand the BLS and how they classify occupations
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:31 pm to
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Your response is typical of a person who will flail away at life

Happy successful people look at situations and see opportunity, and they make their way and pay their dues. They see how things can be accomplished

Unhappy, marginal employees always see why things can't get done and reasons they can't be successful. Their life is ruled by anger, blame and jealousy.




lol blow me old man
This post was edited on 8/21/17 at 8:32 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112628 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Jesus Christ kids. Welcome to the real world and stop being victims


Easy for you to say... this is a fact. I have no clue why older people run from this fact. The economy is shite frick ball stain and it isn't the millenials fault

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Downward mobility, for now at least, is increasingly rife. Stanford economist Raj Chatty finds that someone born in 1940 had a 92 percent chance of earning more than their parents; a boomer born in 1950 had a 79 percent chance of earning more than their parents. Those born in 1980, in contrast, have just a 46 percent chance.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:38 pm to
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The economy is shite frick ball stain


No it's not.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61622 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:38 pm to
whatever you say
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:39 pm to
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the average plumber makes about $23/hour the average welder makes $18.50



This looks off



Probably includes mig welders and temps who make about $12 per hour here in the South. Woo southern pride
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:40 pm to
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Probably includes mig welders and temps who make about $12 per hour here in the South. Woo southern pride



If you were born in the 1940s or 1950s this would be good enough to have a nice house and support a family of 3 or 4

Today.. well.. not so much.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61350 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:42 pm to
Anyone post the baby boomers memes yet? That's all I'm here for.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85939 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:44 pm to
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Travel and new experiences are what we like to spend money on more than anything. And not luxurious travel, just travel in general. Not a lot of people putting down roots.


Agree 100%

I've fallen in love with traveling the last year or so... 10 personal trips and it's been great.

Actually debating on selling my house, investing the equity, and renting, so that I'm not tied to a single location.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:44 pm to
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you were born in the 1940s or 1950s this would be good enough to have a nice house and support a family of 3 or 4


If you were born in the 40s, you probably made $300-$400 a month when you started your career.
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