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re: The guys who ride behind the pilot in jet fighters..
Posted on 2/18/23 at 4:59 pm to Richard Flagget
Posted on 2/18/23 at 4:59 pm to Richard Flagget
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Wso - weapons specialist operator or something like that?
Think the Navy calls them a Radar Navigations Officer. At least they used to. Most people just call them the rear seat or “rear”.
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Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:07 pm to Pandy Fackler
I think they’re called “bottoms”
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:10 pm to wasteland
Only on F-15s
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:10 pm to Pandy Fackler
A late friend of mine was an F-14 WSO. He could t be a pilot because of his vision. He died in a plane crash at Pax River. Went to work as a navionics guy for a private contractor. Plane went down on approach.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:17 pm to Pandy Fackler
The backseaters are the WO's or the RIO's. (Weapons Officer or Radar Intercept Officer). Aircraft like the F-14 Tomcat required a lot of attention from the pilot to flying the aircraft. In combat situations he could quickly get overloaded. RIO's and "Wizzo's" kept up with the weapons systems and weapons radar as well as aiding in navigating the aircraft.
Many of the back seaters were every bit as qualified as the pilots with the exception, possibly, of eyesight or color vision. Nearly all of them were also pilots, but weren't checked out as first pilots in the aircraft they manned. Some aircraft had redundant pilot controls for the back seat guys, while others had the back seat console and controls dedicated exclusively to weapons systems.
A lot of folks consider the back seat guys to be second-rate flyboys, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They have to be in top physical condition just as much as the pilots, and they have to be damned near geniuses to handle the workload thrown at them while their chauffeur in the front seat deals with traffic.
Many of the back seaters were every bit as qualified as the pilots with the exception, possibly, of eyesight or color vision. Nearly all of them were also pilots, but weren't checked out as first pilots in the aircraft they manned. Some aircraft had redundant pilot controls for the back seat guys, while others had the back seat console and controls dedicated exclusively to weapons systems.
A lot of folks consider the back seat guys to be second-rate flyboys, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They have to be in top physical condition just as much as the pilots, and they have to be damned near geniuses to handle the workload thrown at them while their chauffeur in the front seat deals with traffic.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:29 pm to Swamp Angel
Had me going until that last paragraph
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:42 pm to wasteland
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I think they’re called “bottoms”
You just won the thread.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:46 pm to kywildcatfanone
"Arm your seat, wizzo, you're the last flare."
Look up C.W. Lemoine on youtube.
Look up C.W. Lemoine on youtube.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:49 pm to Pandy Fackler
Without any knowledge of how it all works, I assume that if they are not certified pilots, they at least know how to fly a jet.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:50 pm to OweO
You really are the dumbest motherfricker on this website
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:52 pm to jcaz
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Lizzo
Those only roll around on the ground, no way they'd get off it.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:54 pm to Pandy Fackler
I just figured they couldn’t grow a proper mustache so they didn’t want them in the front of the plane.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:58 pm to Swamp Angel
And there it is
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:13 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:no they typically are electronic warfare officers, and I do not think most have wings or they'd be pilots.
I know they don't do the flying but are they also pilots or could they be?
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:28 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:NO
I know they don't do the flying but are they also pilots or could they be?
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:30 pm to Pandy Fackler
quote:
know they don't do the flying but are they also pilots or could they be?
Dont some aircraft. The pilot is the back guy? Might be thinking apache helicopters
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:30 pm to ninthward
quote:NO, only in a few aircraft are they "jammers" in most US scenarios they are weapons systems operators "wizzos" or radar intercept operators "RIOS"
no they typically are electronic warfare officers
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:38 pm to tokenBoiler
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Arm your seat, wizzo, you're the last flare
I like that guys videos.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:50 pm to Pandy Fackler
Single seat, big meat. Self Loading Baggage. I'd rather have another 200# of gas!!
Seriously, some guys/gals aspire to be RIO/WSO's, some guys/gals end up being RIO/WSO's because they had some issue that kept them from qualifying for Pilot position. Many of them have pilot licenses and can fly, some apply for a designator change and eventually move to the front seat, actual military airframes differ in whether there are flight controls in the rear cockpit or not. I instructed in a lot of two=seat F-18s, but only flew single-seat in the fleet/reserves. I can definitely see how having a second aircrew could be valuable in some scenarios. But glad I was single-seat nonetheless.
Seriously, some guys/gals aspire to be RIO/WSO's, some guys/gals end up being RIO/WSO's because they had some issue that kept them from qualifying for Pilot position. Many of them have pilot licenses and can fly, some apply for a designator change and eventually move to the front seat, actual military airframes differ in whether there are flight controls in the rear cockpit or not. I instructed in a lot of two=seat F-18s, but only flew single-seat in the fleet/reserves. I can definitely see how having a second aircrew could be valuable in some scenarios. But glad I was single-seat nonetheless.
Posted on 2/18/23 at 8:00 pm to Chief Hinge
Wrong. The F-15B/D is the 2 seater used for training. Were you even a pilot? Or just talking out your arse?
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