re: The graduation stereotypes are not exaggerated

Kangz!!!

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I applaud people for changing their family’s trajectory. 

I fault people who have expectations of mediocrity. Those kids got accepted to school just like everyone else which means that they all had a reasonable chance of graduating, according to the school. 

Their families are doing them a disservice by lowering the bar for otherwise capable people.

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We will likely disagree on this then. You can have expectations of completing something. But then celebrate the accomplishment once you achieved it. Thats just a part of enjoying life.

For example: The warriors and the entire NBA expect to GS to win the championship this year. But you better believe that if they do win indeed, they will celebrate just as hard with confetti, champagne, etc.

When you work extremely hard at something, you should be able to take pride in your work. That is my belief, and I stanf firm in that. Regardless of whether or not it was expected or not.

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For example: The warriors and the entire NBA expect to GS to win the championship this year. But you better believe that if they do win indeed, they will celebrate just as hard with confetti, champagne, etc.

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Winning a championship is way fricking harder than getting a general studies degree at a state university.

Thats part of my point. They should throw a party after to enjoy the moment. But for the seconds of silence before the next name is called, it should not be frowned upon to cheer.

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We will likely disagree on this then. You can have expectations of completing something. But then celebrate the accomplishment once you achieved it. Thats just a part of enjoying life.

For example: The warriors and the entire NBA expect to GS to win the championship this year. But you better believe that if they do win indeed, they will celebrate just as hard with confetti, champagne, etc.

When you work extremely hard at something, you should be able to take pride in your work. That is my belief, and I stanf firm in that. Regardless of whether or not it was expected or not.

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Yeah I think we definitely disagree. And I don’t think that analogy works here. College isn’t a competition where someone absolutely has to lose. Theoretically, everyone who is accepted can graduate, and that’s the expectation.

When the school extends you an acceptance letter, they expect you to go to class, work, study and graduate. Otherwise you wouldn’t be there. That’s a different expectation that we have for GS...we think they will win. We know one of the teams in the finals will lose.

And I have no problem with celebrating graduation as an achievement. But one kid’s achievement isn’t greater than the next becuase, again, we expect them to do what they were accepted to the school to do. It certainly doesn’t warrant interrupting and dragging out the ceremony for everyone else.

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There are clearly socio-economic explanations for this type of thing,

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those people”? The folks who lived in the trailer park a few miles away.

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You just described those people I grew up with and my in laws. I’ve been to their churches and graduations and saw nothing of the sort. But, whatever. I’m not trying to compare anecdotes.

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yet you’re trying to convince yourself that it’s biological. You understand what that sounds like, right?

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Am I a white supremicist because I think there are genetic differences between whites and blacks? Aren’t there?

Maybe I’m really just doing what everyone supposedly wants and I’m trying to have an “honest” conversation about race.

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But one kid’s achievement isn’t greater than the next becuase, again, we expect them to do what they were accepted to the school to do. It certainly doesn’t warrant interrupting and dragging out the ceremony for everyone else.

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I think I get what you are saying. I am not advocating interrupting the next graduate. I am saying, unless at your graduations the names are called rapid fire with absolutely no pause in between. They should be allowed to cheer in betweem the pause. As long as they are done by the next name being called.

I dont think the issue is with people cheering, but rather people cheering for too long. Those are 2 seperate things imo.

I also understand where you are coming from as well. My fiance family all expect academic excellence. So they dont really see graduations as achievements. So for her graduation, beside her mom and grandma, no one really came to support. Because they just did not see it as worthwhile.

Meanwhile my family is completely opposite. We had huge graduation parties for both my high school and college graduation. Its not like they didnt expect it of me either. I was a 4.0 student all through secondary school until I switched to a harder school halfway through sophomore year. My family knew I was smart, but they still saw it as important to get together and celebrate. For college, I finished in 4 years. Again, no one really doubted me, because they knew the type of student I was. But I still had tons of support. I appreciate that, because it pushes me on to want to achieve many many more things in life.

Reverse discrimination policies applied to admissions will do that.

Any Bojangles Robinson routines on stage?

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This may be your best post ever.

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Low bar.