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The future? Zion NP may institute a reservation system to reduce overcrowding.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:45 am
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:45 am
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I'm ok with this if it means protecting our national parks. Smoky Mountains can get terrible in the summer.
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Officials at southern Utah’s Zion National Park say they’re being overrun by visitors, even during the usual winter lull.
Rangers had to block tour buses and oversize vehicles from Zion Canyon to control the crowds during the holiday season and close the road. Cars are sometimes rushed through the toll gate without the usual $30-per-vehicle charge as traffic backs up into neighboring Springdale.
Visitation is expected to top 4 million for 2016, a record. The number of visitors headed to see snow-covered red rock during the park’s offseason has jumped by the biggest margin, ticking up nearly 70 percent since 2010. Other national parks reported record attendance in 2016. Nearly 3 million people visited Glacier National Park in Montana last year, a record, officials said.
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The park has a mandatory shuttle system in the summer, but the service is curtailed in the winter, meaning more visitors use cars.
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Zion National Park leaders are working on a new master plan for managing the ever-growing crowds that have waits for the shuttle topping two hours at times. Park officials could institute a timed-entry or reservation system, or develop trails that encourage non-motorized transport. The final plan is expected in fall 2018.
I'm ok with this if it means protecting our national parks. Smoky Mountains can get terrible in the summer.
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Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:46 am to GetCocky11
I am absolutely ok with this
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:51 am to GetCocky11
Didn't they just have an ad campaign telling people to visit national parks?
Posted on 1/6/17 at 9:58 am to GetCocky11
I went there last year. I was shocked when I had to pay $30 to get in. And yeah, their isn't very much parking. We parked at one of the towns before you enter the NP at one of the first trolley stops. Took quite awhile to get in, and then you had to pay and get in another trolley. It was worth it tho.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:04 am to GetCocky11
Debali already does this for the backcountry and you can only use private vehicles at designated times in the spring and fall.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:16 am to GetCocky11
CBS Sunday morning just did a story on the national parks. The correspondent visited all the parks over the year and stated that certain parks would have to move to something like this due to the massive amount of people that visit certain parks
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:18 am to GetCocky11
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Zion NP may institute a reservation system to reduce overcrowding
So only Injuns get to go? This is bullshite.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:21 am to hobotiger
If you get a half mile off the road you can fimd solitude in just about any NP. Most Americans are content to gawk at the scenery from their cars.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:21 am to GetCocky11
Zion's proxemity to Vegas and the Grand Canyon make it an extremely popular park. The main issue with the park and traffic is its extremely small for the number of visitors. Kolob Canyon area of the park is more represnative of normal park traffic.
The National Park System is one of the few things the FedGov does well, IMO.
The National Park System is one of the few things the FedGov does well, IMO.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 10:35 am
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:22 am to GetCocky11
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Cars are sometimes rushed through the toll gate without the usual $30-per-vehicle charge
There is your real answer.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:30 am to CatsGoneWild
quote:probably the best 30 you have ever spent.
I was shocked when I had to pay $30 to get in
If you are interested in visiting multiple parks, the interagency pass is 80 and will get you into all the parks and Monuments
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:30 am to GetCocky11
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Cars are sometimes rushed through the toll gate without the usual $30-per-vehicle charge as traffic backs up into neighboring Springdale.
Went to Zion in the summer of 2013 and do not remember having a problem with lines. We bought our annual NP pass at the gate and used that for the rest of our trip. It must be getting pretty bad.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:34 am to Flair Chops
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If you are interested in visiting multiple parks, the interagency pass is 80 and will get you into all the parks and Monuments
Yeah. Two years ago we went to Zion and Bryce and then to RMNP later in the year. Best money for the return I spent all year.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:38 am to meeple
Yea I was there a couple of years ago and it wasn't that bad. I even got a spot in the Lava Point Campground on my first try. Must have gotten a lot worse.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:41 am to GetCocky11
I've been to this park more than any other park. I think 7 times.
Every time it's harder and harder to either camp at the campgrounds or in the backcountry. I'm perfectly fine with this.
As soon as you get on a trail though, number of people you see shrinks.
Every time it's harder and harder to either camp at the campgrounds or in the backcountry. I'm perfectly fine with this.
As soon as you get on a trail though, number of people you see shrinks.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:43 am to GetCocky11
Why not build a tram through the natural forests and make everyone take the tram if they want to visit.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:45 am to GetCocky11
we went for christmas a few years ago and it was absolutely vacant. Go figure. It was so awesome, we would go on long hikes and see no one.
that was probably 10 years ago though. We talked about going back this year but for some reason didn't. Glad we didn't.
that was probably 10 years ago though. We talked about going back this year but for some reason didn't. Glad we didn't.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 10:47 am to Jim Rockford
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Debali already does this for the backcountry and you can only use private vehicles at designated times in the spring and fall
Problem with Denali is that it severely restricts who can afford, or is physically able to really see the park. The buses are ridiculous.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:40 am to Golfer
I feel like while national parks are really crowded, national monuments are typically overlooked. On the USDA side, national forests are also overlooked. State parks are great also.
Some real hidden gems out there.
Some real hidden gems out there.
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:42 am to GetCocky11
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national monuments are typically overlooked.
Spent two days hiking in Grand Staircase Escalante as well...easily the most remote place I've ever been. So surreal.
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