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re: The Future of Religion

Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:00 am to
Posted by BurningHeart
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:00 am to
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you say this then proceed to say the exact same thing he did?


Similar wording, different meaning.

It's deep castor.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:01 am to
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More importantly you will see every opportunity you had to come to know Jesus and that you refused.
how many opportunities to come to know Jesus did a kid who was born in a Muslim nation and died at 3 year old have?
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:02 am to
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ctiger69


Sounds like you got all the answers baw. Are you jesus?
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:02 am to
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When you die your entire life will be reviewed in a matter of minutes like watching a movie reel in 10X speed 


So god and I will be sitting on the couch watching my life for approximately 8 years?

Hope we have enough popcorn handy.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30615 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:03 am to
Maybe you should read the rest of what I wrote instead of picking out single sentences so it sounds out of context.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:03 am to
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That is because it is true. In fact it has been proved to be the most accurate historic text in the history of mankind.


Uh wut
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:04 am to
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That is because it is true. In fact it has been proved to be the most accurate historic text in the history of mankind


No, it’s really not. I’m not just saying that cause I don’t believe in it, I’m saying that becuase I did two years of very thorough research into the history of it.

It’s not even a fact that Jews were in Egypt at the time of the alleged exodus, in fact its highly unlikely from a historical perspective.

Further, no contemporary author wrote about Jesus, ever. Like, at all. Literally Every story about him is hearsay.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:06 am to
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ctiger69




I hope you're just trolling in here...
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30615 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:06 am to
"This copying method is so exact, and so precise, that the New Testament alone is considered to be 99.5% textually pure. This means that of the 6000 Greek copies (the New Testament was written in Greek), and the additional 21,000 copies in other languages, there is only one half of 1% variation. Of this very slight number, the great majority of the variants are easily corrected by comparing them to other copies that don't have the "typos" or by simply reading the context. You should know that copying mistakes occur in such ways as word repetition, spelling, or a single word omission due to the copyist missing something when moving his eyes from one line to another. The variants are very minor. Nothing affects doctrinal truth and the words and deeds of Christ are superbly reliably transmitted to us.

The science of studying ancient literature and its accuracy of transmission to is called historicity. The Bible is so exceedingly accurate in its transmission from the originals to the present copies, that if you compare it to any other ancient writing, the Bible is light years ahead in terms of number of manuscripts and accuracy. If the Bible were to be discredited as being unreliable, then it would be necessary to discard the writings of Homer, Plato, and Aristotle as also unreliable since they are far far less well preserved than the Bible.

The Bible was written by those who were inspired by God, so it is accurate and true, and represents historical occurrences. When we look at the New Testament, we realize that it was written by those who either knew Jesus personally or were under the direction of those who did. They wrote what they saw. They wrote about the resurrection of Christ. They recorded His miracles and His sayings. It comes down to whether or not you believe what it says about Christ."
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:07 am to
Or, you're just a self-important blowhard.

Maybe scientific research can conclude which is which someday.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30615 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:08 am to
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Further, no contemporary author wrote about Jesus, ever. Like, at all. Literally Every story about him is hearsay.


"The New Testament alone is considered to be 99.5% textually pure. This means that of the 6000 Greek copies (the New Testament was written in Greek), and the additional 21,000 copies in other languages, there is only one half of 1% variation."
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:08 am to
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s science grows it begins to prove there is a god/creator which supports religion.



Even if this were the case, out of the infinite number of possibilities for a god or gods, you still have a better chance of winning powerball than your hyposthesis being correct.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:10 am to
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Or, you're just a self-important blowhard. 

Maybe scientific research can conclude which is which someday.


Oh that's not a very nice thing to say.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:10 am to
You're justification for the bible being "accurate" is the translation over centuries. What we mean by accurate is whether or not there is truth in the bible.

I could write a book about blue alien lizards, and even if the translation remains pure over two thousand years, it's still a crock of shite.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 9:11 am
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30615 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:11 am to
Compared to other ancient documents, the New Testament, for example, has far more textual evidence in its favor than any other ancient writing. Please consider the chart below.

Author When Written Earliest Copy Time Span No. of Copies
Homer (Iliad) 900 BC 400 BC 500 years 643
Ceasar (The Gallic Wars) 100 - 44 BC 900 AD 1,000 years 10
Plato (Tetralogies) 427 - 347 BC 900 AD 1,200 years 7
Aristotle 384 - 322 BC 1,100 AD 1,400 years 49
Herodotus (History) 480 - 425 BC 900 AD 1,300 years 8
Euripedes 480 - 406 BC 1,100 AD 1,500 years 9
New Testament 50 - 90 A.D. 130 AD 30 years 24,000


If the Bible cannot be trusted as being reliable because it has only a small percentage of copyist errors, then neither can the above documents be trusted that have far less textual support.

Therefore, we can see that the Bible is an ancient document that has withstood thousands of years of transmission with remarkable accuracy and clarity. We can trust it to be what it says it is: the word of God.
Posted by Lakebound
Member since Nov 2004
3832 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:13 am to
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i see a lot of hypocrisy in organized religion. for example my in-laws are pro-life but for the death penalty.

Your in-laws maintain the same positions that Archbishop Philip Hannan did.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18805 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:13 am to
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The New Testament alone is considered to be 99.5% textually pure. This means that of the 6000 Greek copies (the New Testament was written in Greek), and the additional 21,000 copies in other languages, there is only one half of 1% variation."


It’s not that I believe the copies of the original writings to be inaccurate, I don’t believe in the original writings.

Are you aware that the first gospel to be written was penned more than 50 years after Jesus allegedly died?
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30615 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:14 am to
His comment was the Bible is not historic text which I proved his comment was incorrect.

Of course faith is needed to believe in God but once one actually looks at all the evidence it is easier to believe in God and it takes much more blind faith to be an Atheist.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:17 am to
I'd also like to know why so many of the "events" of the bible mirror ancient paganism?
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:18 am to
You're trolling, right?
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