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re: The ethics of doctors handing out meds as suckers at the end of a visit

Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:28 am to
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:28 am to
Right.

You can’t tell me if OP’s wife is suffering from severe migraines and the doc has a pill to eliminate them, he just going to say, “suck it up. You’re better for it.”
Posted by rexorotten
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
4967 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Do kids still treat the Indian shooting a bow as “lucky” on Dum-Dum wrappers?


It's tootsie pop, dum dum.


This post was edited on 3/24/21 at 10:37 am
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:35 am to
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Goes to doctor. Gets pissed when doctor tries to doctor.
Just wait till we get more "Equity Hiring" in medical facilities.

"The sucker jar be broked, what else you want?"
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34088 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:57 am to
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It's doctors and patients faults. No one wants to put in any effort to improve.


You forgot to include the pharmaceutical companies in that equation as well. They are constantly conducting R&D...which is a good thing. But in doing so they are discovering other effects of potential drugs separate and apart from the focus of the R&D. That's how Viagra came about. The pharmaceutical company was trying to develop medication for heart related chest pain.

So when these unintended side "benefits" are discovered the pharmaceutical companies realize they can make money off of what may otherwise be a failed R&D project relative to the intended focus of that R&D. Thus, they create a "disorder" to "fix" with their product. That's how you get thousands of people who suddenly have Restless Leg Syndrome and NEED medicine to cure it. Or how people suddenly need a drug to stop them from laughing or crying at an "inappropriate" times.

Big pharma gives doctors huge benefits to push this shite on the public....a public that has been conditioned to desperately want a pill to fix and and every conceivable "problem".

What 7 year old wants to pay attention in school or has a great attention span to focus on something they aren't interested in? They don't have a "disorder". That's simply called being 7...though some are more hyperactive than other. We all dealt with that. But eventually we matured, developed some self-discipline, and realized there are things we sometime have to focus on even if it isn't enjoyable. But why go through the difficult process to develop that self-discipline when you can just take a magic pill? Or more to the point, why, as a parent, go through the difficulty of raising and active kid when you can just continue your same disinterested lifestyle by "curing" your kid by simply sedating him/her?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36656 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 10:58 am to
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Big pharma gives doctors huge benefits to push this shite on the public..


Not anymore
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:02 am to
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but sometimes a pill is what works the best.


I think it's really screwing up kids. I agree sometimes it works, but the habit of throwing out pills has led to some disastrous results.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:05 am to
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Pineapple was rare.

Good for another reason too.

If you have to ask why, you are already too late for Supper.


But does the sucker have the proper enzymes it in like real pineapple to impart the benefit you are expecting?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61361 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:08 am to
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I think it's really screwing up kids. I agree sometimes it works, but the habit of throwing out pills has led to some disastrous results.



Well, it’s certainly done nothing to curb the suicide rates amongst young people especially, but then, I’ve heard everything from blaming racism to even climate change on that.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
72752 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:11 am to
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But does the sucker have the proper enzymes it in like real pineapple to impart the benefit you are expecting?
All I can do is try.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12187 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:12 am to
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Americans average over 4.5 prescriptions taken daily per person. In 1993 it was something like 2.6 prescriptions per person.

Think about that - every man, woman and child in this country is taking that many pills.
That's not how stats work.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3845 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:19 am to
And as medical Science progresses it makes sense that more medications are being taken on average. That’s common sense. As things are invented they get used
Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:24 am to
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You just have to wonder the ethics behind drugging up our problems instead of actually learning to overcome and/or live with our problems or struggles in life.
I think most health professionals agree that medication is a last resort after therapy and other methods. Sometimes they’ll give you medication immediately if you’re so depressed or anxious that you can’t function or are a danger to yourself, but that’s an exception.

You’re whole “people don’t want to help themselves” bullshite is pretty misinformed and offensive, and I hope you never suffer from mental illness so you can see that for your self
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
36656 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:28 am to
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You’re whole “people don’t want to help themselves” bullshite is pretty misinformed and offensive


You're right, the 60 something percent of obese Americans all have thyroid problems
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
61361 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:32 am to
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You’re whole “people don’t want to help themselves” bullshite is pretty misinformed


I never said that or alluded to that because that’s not what I think, nor what I questioned. Matter of fact, I made it a point to not make this an individual thing, but rather a question of medical ethics. I don’t think people wish that upon themselves, but it’s a system that’s geared to medicating a symptom, and not always dealing with the problems.


Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
17320 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 11:55 am to
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You forgot to include the pharmaceutical companies in that equation as well. They are constantly conducting R&D...which is a good thing. But in doing so they are discovering other effects of potential drugs separate and apart from the focus of the R&D. That's how Viagra came about. The pharmaceutical company was trying to develop medication for heart related chest pain.

So when these unintended side "benefits" are discovered the pharmaceutical companies realize they can make money off of what may otherwise be a failed R&D project relative to the intended focus of that R&D. Thus, they create a "disorder" to "fix" with their product. That's how you get thousands of people who suddenly have Restless Leg Syndrome and NEED medicine to cure it. Or how people suddenly need a drug to stop them from laughing or crying at an "inappropriate" times.


I agree completely.

quote:

Big pharma gives doctors huge benefits to push this shite on the public....


Incorrect. It used to be true. Now there are strict laws against it. You can look up your doctors name on a website and see exactly how much they received from pharma each year. But that amount was not cash. Every time a rep brings my staff some donuts (which I am too busy to eat) - it gets added to my total amount.

The narrative that physicians are in bed with pharma is no longer valid. Drop it.

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What 7 year old wants to pay attention in school or has a great attention span to focus on something they aren't interested in? They don't have a "disorder". That's simply called being 7...though some are more hyperactive than other. We all dealt with that. But eventually we matured, developed some self-discipline, and realized there are things we sometime have to focus on even if it isn't enjoyable. But why go through the difficult process to develop that self-discipline when you can just take a magic pill? Or more to the point, why, as a parent, go through the difficulty of raising and active kid when you can just continue your same disinterested lifestyle by "curing" your kid by simply sedating him/her?


I agree completely. I argue this with my patients and their parents every day in my clinic.
Posted by texn
Pronouns: Y'All/Y'All's
Member since Nov 2019
4057 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:18 pm to
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dependent upon pills to live life, and I don’t see how that is a net positive for anyone


Boner pills make everyone happy
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
4057 posts
Posted on 3/24/21 at 12:20 pm to
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Pineapple was rare.

Good for another reason too.


Pineapple is supposed to improve the taste of male ejaculate. My wife agrees, but I'm a little self conscious about masturbating into an opened can of pineapple chunks.
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