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re: The Depp/Heard Trial is the gift that keeps on giving

Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:17 am to
Posted by crimsonsaint
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:17 am to
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The holding the dog out of the window is troublesome for JD in my opinion.


I forgot about this and didn’t see her testimony or any commentary on it. But was it believable or did it seem like more of her bs?
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:18 am to
I think calling Ellen Barkin to testify that JD was a drunk/drug guy who tossed a wine bottle 30 years ago made Heard look desperate. We already know he's an alcoholic and drug addicted. He says that himself. Barkin testified that JD never hit her, so why was she called?

So much of yesterday was a big yawn and waste of time.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:24 am to
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So much of yesterday was a big yawn and waste of time.


Yeah they were trying to shown a pattern.. You can smell the desperation on Amber's side of the courtroom.

Question... Does the jury have to stick with the 50 million or can they adjust that as they see fit?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:26 am to
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Yeah they were trying to shown a pattern.. You can smell the desperation on Amber's side of the courtroom.

Question... Does the jury have to stick with the 50 million or can they adjust that as they see fit?

they adjust as they see fit

they could say "these 2 don't need the money... just the verdict" and rule for Depp and award him $1
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:27 am to
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Don’t y’all think that Depp did beat her some? I get that her credibility sucks, but do you find none of it believable?

It doesn't matter what I, or anyone else, thinks could've happened, or if it is in the realm of possibilities. What matters is if, during this hearing, there has been proof that he did. And nothing that I have seen or heard in this hearing has come anywhere close to proving to me that he did.

I mean they are both crazy as hell drug addicts, so both are capable of all kinds of crazy abuse. But I haven't seen anything so far that proves to me that he did.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 10:28 am
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:27 am to
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The holding the dog out of the window is troublesome for JD in my opinion. Pet lovers on the jury may be swayed by that in some way that's not relevant to the real issues. I don't know, but it triggered me somewhat, admittedly.



Jury research on this is pretty consistent. Juries hate those who hurt animals.

That said, I think the point gets diluted in all of her mess, and her retelling of the story was not particularly compelling.
Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:29 am to
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So much of yesterday was a big yawn and waste of time.


I continue to think the defense is driven by Amber Heard.
She is insisting that they put on all these witnesses, because, in her mind, it makes her point.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:29 am to
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Jury research on this is pretty consistent. Juries hate those who hurt animals.


Posted by JudgeHolden
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:33 am to
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JDPndahizzy


Well played.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:39 am to
quote:

quote:

Yeah they were trying to shown a pattern.. You can smell the desperation on Amber's side of the courtroom.

Question... Does the jury have to stick with the 50 million or can they adjust that as they see fit?

they adjust as they see fit

they could say "these 2 don't need the money... just the verdict" and rule for Depp and award him $1

damn it... how did I miss the bolded part and not make the appropriate "no that's just Amber's bed shite" joke in my original response
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:39 am to
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Jury research on this is pretty consistent. Juries hate those who hurt animals.

That said, I think the point gets diluted in all of her mess, and her retelling of the story was not particularly compelling.


It had slipped my mind until her sister testified again about it. Now, it's back fresh in my mind.

I didn't see or hear all of his testimony. Was he asked about the dog incident?
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:42 am to
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It had slipped my mind until her sister testified again about it. Now, it's back fresh in my mind.

I didn't see or hear all of his testimony. Was he asked about the dog incident?

the 1st time I recall hearing about the dog incident was when Amber was on the stand

I could've missed it earlier in the proceedings... that's just the 1st time I remember it being mentioned
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:53 am to
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the 1st time I recall hearing about the dog incident was when Amber was on the stand

I could've missed it earlier in the proceedings... that's just the 1st time I remember it being mentioned


Based on what I can find, it came up in this trial through Amber first. However, it came up in the UK trial and here's an article on that. He denies it happened.

LINK
Posted by moontigr
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:56 am to
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I think calling Ellen Barkin to testify that JD was a drunk/drug guy who tossed a wine bottle 30 years ago made Heard look desperate. We already know he's an alcoholic and drug addicted. He says that himself. Barkin testified that JD never hit her, so why was she called?

So much of yesterday was a big yawn and waste of time.



Yeah, Barkin just came across as bitter. Not much to her testimony that hasn't already been covered tenfold.

Johnny's defense was wise to flip the script from the beginning - he openly admitted his alcohol and drug use, never denied it.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:01 am to
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He denies it happened.


I recall seeing something about this incident with the dog she is accusing him of. There's literally a video of her doing the same thing with her dog with the window rolled down. 1 thing narcissists do is accuse their victims of stuff that they have done themselves. It might actually be a mental issue where she is misremembering something that she actually did instead of Johnny.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 11:03 am
Posted by abellsujr
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:04 am to
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It doesn't matter what I, or anyone else, thinks could've happened, or if it is in the realm of possibilities. What matters is if, during this hearing, there has been proof that he did. And nothing that I have seen or heard in this hearing has come anywhere close to proving to me that he did. I mean they are both crazy as hell drug addicts, so both are capable of all kinds of crazy abuse. But I haven't seen anything so far that proves to me that he did.
Technically, for a defamation suit, Heard doesn’t have to prove he hit her. It’s on Depp to prove he didn’t. I would say that he has done that at least to the point where it’s hard for me to believe that any hitting ever happened on his part. Or if it did, it was in self defense. But Depp has actually disproven some of her allegations imo. So it’s up to the jury. If Depp wins, it will be because they feel he needs to be compensated for her insane actions. Regardless, he is now seen in the public eye as someone who was dealing with a lunatic. And his career will be fine. Not sure if big studios mess with him, but he’ll get some good opportunities going forward.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:06 am to
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There's literally a video of her doing the same thing with her dog with the window rolled down.


That's very interesting. I'd like to see that video. I'm surprised this didn't come out at trial.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:07 am to
Question for you guys..

Johnny's defense asked the coke whore sister about a woman named Howell (or something close).. Supposedly this is who the sister moved in with after the stairwell incident. Allegedly the sister told Howell the events and Howell says it was the complete opposite of what the sister testified to on the stand.. Couldn't johnnys team have called Howell and tried to impeach the sisters testimony? Or at least made her testimony questionable?
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:16 am to
tweeter

not necessarily exactly same behavior as what she described Depp doing during the trial, but there she is holding the dog leaning out of the car with the window rolled down
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 11:18 am
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:29 am to
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not necessarily exactly same behavior as what she described Depp doing during the trial, but there she is holding the dog leaning out of the car with the window rolled down




It's not something I would do with a small dog, but it's not the same as what was described during the trial.
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