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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)

Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:26 pm to
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Also, we’re playing 1/2 most of the time, so there’s a lot of blind flips for their $100 stacks. Figure I’ll get it back later on.




Ugh, that gets annoying though. Sure, it works out when you get deep with some of them, but what tilts me more than anything is when the fish actually finds a clue and quits with the money.
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Ugh, that gets annoying though. Sure, it works out when you get deep with some of them, but what tilts me more than anything is when the fish actually finds a clue and quits with the money.


You can rest assure if I buy in at 1/2 and everyone is sitting with 50 blinds or less, I’m snap jamming the first hand blind. Small price to pay to get the table going.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:31 pm to
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EarlyCuyler3




Much more enjoyable to just sit back, shoot the shite, drink some beers, and wait for casual players to do something stupid.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Couldn’t you also say it was idiotic for him to raise and go all in with that hand?
shoving with a straight flush draw is a much better play than calling that bet with J high
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:03 pm to
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But she says she didn’t make it based on her hand. She made it based on her thinking he had shite. And he was on a draw but she was basically right. Dude tried to bully her out of the hand and she didn’t back down


This is stuff people do in a $10 tournament or cash game for pennies with jack high. Those typically aren't the kind of people sitting at a table putting +100,000 on the line.
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:07 pm to
I'm mostly trolling but I've never been a fan of lingo in almost any context. Feels too forced for my tastes.

I'm not actually mad or suicidal about y'all saying things
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:08 pm to
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Trust me, you'd never beat me with a high card, so I wouldn't have to worry about that. It's not my style of play. I'd never raise all-in like that in a cash game without some kind of made hand. I don't have big enough cajones.

And now that I think of it...hands like this are a good reminder of why I don't, especially in amateur games

I prefer to just wait out the dumb decisions and get my money in when I know I'm ahead


It's a fool proof way to win at a decent rate in low stakes tournaments/games.

Just start out super tight and figure out who will pay just to see just about every flop, and who will only stick around in hands if they have something solid. With that info you can bully your way to some money. Go in big against the ones who will pay to see the next card when you have a hand. And buy pots from those that will exit without a hand, or just have a draw.

This is also the reason I hate low stakes limit hold em at casinos. You can never figure anything out bc people just stay in to see the flop bc it's so cheap.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 5:11 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:10 pm to
It's 100% not forced in poker. It's a shorthand to cover a lot of info quickly. Here's how I'd take notes on a hand:

KhKd BU, 2 limps, open 40, 3 to flop. A86hhs, X's to me, x/b. Turn Ks, BB b100, 1 call, b500, BB snaps. River 2c, BB AI 300, call. V1 has A8s.

Looks like a bunch of nonsense, but I guarantee someone here can play that hand back and know exactly what I meant.
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:12 pm to
It's forced in here, in this thread, right here and now, in the post I'm replying to.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:14 pm to
Of course, you're the expert after all.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:17 pm to
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It’s an absolutely atrocious call that worked out. She is an attractive woman that is probably being bankrolled by a sugar daddy and she can’t play a lick.

that call from her looked like something the drunk jackasses at my home poker games will pull. So insanely dumb and I get why he’s bewildered with that pot size. Crazy bitch got it though lol
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:17 pm to
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I’m the Aggro rec at my local casinos.

Are you Vietnamese, by chance?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:20 pm to
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I was more aggressive back when I played online, but I've found it's just not necessary anymore, especially with casual players around the table at a home game where I can spot tells.

The 2 biggest differences in live/casino and online are kind of related.

1. You almost never get heads up preflop or on the flop live

2. In life you aren't dealing with a polar bluff/value range, because the value has its own range (3D chess, brah) because guys literally face off value v. value (sometimes v. value v. value) all the time.

So, bluffing isn't really necessary most of the time. Its a lesson I always forget when I want to play "correct". I have a friend from law school who is still a professional poker player in Vegas and he's as straightforward, near 0% bluff rate, as you can get. He would always get on me about fancy play syndrome, b/c I wanted that life
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:21 pm to
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You can never figure anything out bc people just stay in to see the flop bc it's so cheap.

I love when I'd be watching Doug Polk videos talking about how you just "bet/raise enough to isolate one opponent" live, and then I go bumhunt at 4am on Sunday mornings and the 1-3 game has a min $50 bet pre-flop every hand
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
71143 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:22 pm to
I'm an expert in noticing when someone wants to dazzle people with their knowledge without value to the discussion. I see it every day.

The fact that I understand your secret short hand isn't impressive and I imagine most logical people could figure it out. It's not very useful in this context.

It's like being able to name every guy who played 2nd base for the Yankees. It's neat but only super interesting in a group of MLB fanatics. Or if you happen to run into Jack Reacher.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1724 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:22 pm to
What do you consider low stakes? 4-8? 6-12? Because a red chip limit game is a whole different animal. Playing in a fast 20-40 or 15-30 (haven’t seen any 30-60 games around here in a long, long time). can be super expensive or super profitable.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:23 pm to
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He would always get on me about fancy play syndrome, b/c I wanted that life


The amount of big pots I've lost by being impatient and forcing things vastly outweighs the bad beats in big pots.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:24 pm to
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The fact that I understand your secret short hand isn't impressive


Then tell me what happened in that hand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476873 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:25 pm to
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The amount of big pots I've lost by being impatient and forcing things vastly outweighs the bad beats in big pots.

My biggest pot ever was probably about $3k and I left another 4-5k on the table. PLO. AA v. KK v. QQ with an AKQ flop (I had gutter redraws). I raised pot pre and check raised the flop and 2 guys (KK and QQ) ate their $1k bets and folded b/c I was seen as tight.

It may have been AKT but still, 3 flopped sets and everyone folded to me
This post was edited on 10/4/22 at 5:26 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:27 pm to
I can't think of a time where I would check raise that flop. Even with gutter redraws. I'd do it with the nut flush draw but damn son, that's pretty bold.
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