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re: The craziest/best poker call I've ever seen (270k pot)

Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 3:48 pm to
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This is what I think, too. I think they made her feel bad for making a shitty play, and she is embarrassed, so she’d rather have cheating allegations than look like a fricking idiot.


Someone, I think mike x, says at the table “you have a pair of 3s in your hand” she responds “no.” Then they say “do you have a 3 in your hand?”She says “no, I have a pure bluff catcher” I don’t believe she misread her hand.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 3:50 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 4:35 pm to
That makes sense once you get past the initial bets. Makes no sense after the deal, but before the initial bets.
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:02 pm to
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I’m guessing that was billed to him as a cash game table full of pros……I could see how it would be off putting for him.



So the "pro" couldnt even sniff out a nobody

Do you know what you call a "poker professional"

A degenerate that hasnt run out of everyone in their life's money just yet
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:15 pm to
I would have just brushed it off except for the fact her word-salad of explanation of why she played the hand kept changing.

First it was “I called because I thought you have Ace high” which if this was true would be a winning hand.

Then she said she had a back door flush on the turn, which she didnt have.

Then she says something to the effect of “I had the J clubs so I blocked your SF", how would that have been the hand to put him on?

She was then asked if she had a pair of 3, which she responded "no" to, but then she later switched her story to say she had a 3, but made sure to never say the suit of the 3 she thought she had because if she did make it up, what if someone had mucked that 3.

She literally used everyone else at the tables suggestions as to why she might have played that way, until it was explained why that wouldn't plausible.

Also just because someone asked earlier, yes the technology exist for RFID analyzers to decipher all the cards and can be programed to convey what information you are after.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 9:16 pm
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:19 pm to
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ny game where there are professionals consistently winning means it’s not entirely a game of chance.


and the one time professionals get taken to the cleaners by pure speculation, ITS CHEATING SHUT IT DOWN
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:19 pm to
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Also just because someone asked earlier, yes the technology exist for RFID analyzers to decipher all the cards and can be programed to convey what information you are after.

But wouldn’t that mean the deck itself was compromised too? I’m unfamiliar with RFID and how it would work with cards. But wouldn’t that have to mean the deck is tampered and nobody knew that? Wouldn’t there have to be way more people involved in that scenario?
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:37 pm to
Here's a video of Tony Hawk calling with 7 high on the river and won the pot. It's even more crazy than the hand we're talking about. His opponent was shock but never thought cheating was involved. People are just in their own world sometimes at the poker table.

hand starts at 22.45
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:55 pm to
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Here's a video of Tony Hawk calling with 7 high on the river and won the pot. It's even more crazy than the hand we're talking about. His opponent was shock but never thought cheating was involved. People are just in their own world sometimes at the poker table


7-high is indeed a worse hand than J-high, but that was not "even more crazy." The context and play situations are completely different.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
4354 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 9:55 pm to
No, the cards don't need to be tampered with. Would probably help to know the type of card and RFID system used because there is most likely security involved with transmitted signals.

She is getting staked by the guy in the cowboy hat.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1903 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:15 pm to
people don’t give money back ($270k) at the casino unless they know they are about to be in really hot water.

It’s really as simple as that.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9128 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:20 pm to
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people don’t give money back ($270k) at the casino unless they know they are about to be in really hot water.

It’s really as simple as that.


That's the biggest thing for me, too. I don't care how idiotic I looked making it, there's no way in hell I'm forking back over that much money if I won it innocently.

Daniel Negreanu chimed in with the logic that money-hungry cheaters don't give money back. I'm like "ehhhh, they probably would if they realized they were likely going to get caught." That's weak logic to me.
Posted by lance814
Member since Feb 2013
807 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 10:35 pm to
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Here's a video of Tony Hawk calling with 7 high on the river and won the pot. It's even more crazy than the hand we're talking about. His opponent was shock but never thought cheating was involved. People are just in their own world sometimes at the poker table.


He called a $4k bet on the river in a charity tournament. That’s not the same as calling off $110k of your own money (rip’s money)
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:03 pm to
LINK

Here is the video of Robbie giving the money in the background. I’m guessing the guy in the cowboy hat is Rip her boyfriend? You can hear him saying to Garrett “you are a pussy”. Then you see Garrett going back to the table and putting his chips in his backpack and hauling arse.

Regardless, I bet the Hustler casino is pretty pissed off having this happen on their property.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
18913 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:04 pm to
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and the one time professionals get taken to the cleaners by pure speculation, ITS CHEATING SHUT IT DOWN


Pros lose all the time to amateurs.

This thread is full of people who admit they don’t really know much about poker and then proceed with a series of hot takes. If you don’t really understand why this particular hand is interesting or suspicious that’s okay. You don’t need to contribute.
Posted by Bayou Brat
Member since Jul 2021
1023 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:07 pm to
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people don’t give money back ($270k) at the casino unless they know they are about to be in really hot water.

It’s really as simple as that.


There was a heated discussion out of camera view that involved Garrett, Robbi and the producers of the show. Rip joined in when he saw Robbi being bullied. I'm guessing the producers wanted Garrett back at the table because he's widely considered one of the best cash game players in the world. I think they bullied Robbi into giving Garrett the money back so he'd go back to the table but he didn't. She did tell everyone at the table she gave him the money back because she didn't want to cause problems or drama for the show. Several times, in fact.

This is the YouTube link to the entire live stream. LINK




This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 11:11 pm
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:20 pm to
When Garrett got back to the table to rack up, Ivey gave him a 10 second stare probably thinking "you aint no fricking GOAT".
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41824 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:29 pm to
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This thread is full of people who admit they don’t really know much about poker and then proceed with a series of hot takes. If you don’t really understand why this particular hand is interesting or suspicious that’s okay. You don’t need to contribute.

Say she was cheating. Then there has to be other hands in this session where she makes the right call, or lay down.
Was she winning? Winning big? Had she sniffed out other bluffs?
I’m sure she wouldn’t cheat on this one hand and no others. What does the whole tape show?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19196 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:31 pm to
This has been a great thread but let’s be honest. That woman only has two assets that got her in this table and poker skills ain’t one of them.

I agree with Negreanu. She got locked in to thinking he didn’t have shite and did not give any thought to what he might have had and how underwater she was. After making a stupid call and looking like an idiot she got flustered.

The seasoned player getting busted because some amateur made a bad move is as old as poker. Garrett should have shrugged it off but he went the bitch route and accused her of cheating because he lost his $$ when some hot chick that was placed at the table made a very bad call. Nobody seems to methionine that he bet $100k to win a $60k pot on a draw with one card to go.

I think it’s funny that this guy is pitching a fit over what anybody that has played local games ir low limit online games has seen 100’s of times.
This post was edited on 10/1/22 at 11:37 pm
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1903 posts
Posted on 10/1/22 at 11:52 pm to
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There was a heated discussion out of camera view that involved Garrett, Robbi and the producers of the show. Rip joined in when he saw Robbi being bullied. I'm guessing the producers wanted Garrett back at the table because he's widely considered one of the best cash game players in the world. I think they bullied Robbi into giving Garrett the money back so he'd go back to the table but he didn't. She did tell everyone at the table she gave him the money back because she didn't want to cause problems or drama for the show. Several times, in fact. This is the YouTube link to the entire live stream. LINK


I’ve seen all that. It still doesn’t explain her giving the money back. You can’t bully someone in a live recorded casino into “giving you your money back”.

Her play was to call his bluff. She did that. There’s no reason to give the money back unless she knew she was about to get busted.

She claims he “threatened” her. Threatened what? To launch an investigation?! To get to the bottom of this. He didn’t threaten to physically harm her in a wide open casino.

Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11073 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 12:04 am to

So poker genius bet $100k to win a $60k pot with the worst hand and 1 card to go on a draw? Then bitches and whines when he doesn’t hit his draw even when given two chances….because a woman didn’t do what she was supposed to do playing poker?

Sounds like a lot of bad decisions were made in that hand.
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That’s where I’m at. He went in on a draw, not a made hand.

This guy is a shitass. I wouldn’t give him squat back. Granted her BF at the table could change things.
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