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re: The Concept of a Planned Death
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:10 pm to LSUWoodworker
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:10 pm to LSUWoodworker
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If you are not just trolling, I suggest you leave this forum
Contact these folks ASAP
Suicide Hotline
Seriously.
I'll admit I've had some thoughts but even if I was serious I wouldn't be calling that number. I'll be damned if I get locked up in some looney bin against my will. Never mind I could never live that down with my family.
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Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:13 pm to GreenRockTiger
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But you have no way of knowing that
Obviously if you want safeguards in place that could be looked at. As part of the planned death process I would be okay with someone having to have a psychological evaluation and psychologically cleared by 2 physicians. I would even support a waiting period (perhaps several psychological evaluations over a several month period) that way the decision is not impulsive.
I think you could encourage family and friends to be involved in the process. I would encourage the individual to be open about why they want to have a planned death and conclude their life.
And if we're worried about the ethnical concerns with doctors they wouldn't even need to administer it. They could just write the prescription and provide direction on administering.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:15 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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AtlanticTigerMan
Dude,
You have no clue what your future holds. What if you are rear-ended by a big rig. Gordon will make you rich and you can retire in luxury.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:15 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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I'll admit I've had some thoughts but even if I was serious I wouldn't be calling that number. I'll be damned if I get locked up in some looney bin against my will. Never mind I could never live that down with my family.
Holy shite dude - you're not getting locked up. Who the frick have you been talking to? Just go see a counselor.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:17 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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I think you could encourage family and friends to be involved in the process.
If you have a good relationship with your children, and eventually your grandchildren- they would not want this. They may respect your wishes, but they will never want you gone. Reality of course sets in when one gets old, but to make the decision … that’s unnatural
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:18 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
I think you are suffering from a type of depression and you need to seek out professional help.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:19 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
Hate the idea, but I also love randomness.
Too much planning in life, don't want my death to be the same.
Too much planning in life, don't want my death to be the same.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:19 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
My exit cue is when I can no longer live independently and take care of myself. I don't have to be running marathons, but a decent quality of life would have to include making my own decisions and taking care of daily living activities. If I can't do that, I don't want to stay around. Hopefully by that time there will be established methods for accomplishing this in a dignified manner. If not, by any means necessary. Nightmare scenario is a sudden disability that renders it impossible.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:20 pm to cable
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Holy shite dude - you're not getting locked up. Who the frick have you been talking to? Just go see a counselor.
I was trying not to make this personal as (outside of my situation) I genuinely find the subject matter fascinating. I absolutely believe people should be able to end their life with dignity. That's not to say it should be encouraged but it should be legal. Would you have a problem with it being legal?
If you want to know about my situation personally my life just feels very hollow and pointless. I'm single and I've accepted that I'll probably always be single. For a long time that never bothered me but in the last year or two it's bothered me to a big extent. I'm lonely but I'm also not an easy person to get to know. Even my friends joke that I have 25 layers you have to get through. I just know I don't offer anything to this world and everything feels very hollow and pointless. I don't plan to end my life but a lot of times I go to sleep hoping I don't wake up. I am terribly lonely but I also know the chance of me getting into a quality relationship is slim to none.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:27 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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. I am terribly lonely but I also know the chance of me getting into a quality relationship is slim to none.
With an attitude like that, no wonder.
You need to get you some shrooms and acid and go to the mountains. Sounds like you need a hard mental reset
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:32 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
Life has it's ups and downs - I've been through my own - many times. Each time it's made me stronger. You need some help here and it's not going to come from this website. You need a professional's help and it sounds like quickly. Don't do anything rash - there are people that love you and it would devastate their lives if you were gone. Just go talk to someone and get your head back in the right place.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:35 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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As an older millennial (38) I'm screwed in terms of retirement.
How so? I'm a younger boomer and the avenues for retirement savings available to me were significantly less than what has been available to you. Pensions were already a thing of the past for many my age and the companies that had them available were larger multinationals, typically and most of those still do.
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Most millennials, Gen Z's and even some of Gen X will never get to retire in the way Baby Boomers are able to retire.
If they simply start saving early via a 401K, they will probably have it better than I will assuming I can retire at 67 (60 now) in a manner I wish too. Current downturn has impacted my retirement saving.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:44 pm to NATidefan
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his is me. I don't mind if I have to work til I die, but I don't want to end up being a burden to anyone if something happens where I couldn't work and medical bills where piling up.
yeah let's say I had Alzheimer's or dementia, I'd never want to just slowly rot away in a memory care facility not knowing who I am, where I am, who my family is etc. No thanks.
the OP sounds a bit emo but I don't think his overall point is wrong.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 12:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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don't want my death to be the same.
go find a brown bear or a grizzly bear and poke it. Guarantee you will have an extraordinary death.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:01 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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As an older millennial (38) I'm screwed in terms of retirement. Most millennials, Gen Z's and even some of Gen X will never get to retire in the way Baby Boomers are able to retire.
If you believe this, it will happen. If you make the decision that you will retire in a better position and then take action, it will happen as well.
It is all in your mind.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:08 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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This could be an idea where you simply plan and pick an age. You could say "okay I'm going to plan to die at 60
What about if 60 year old you is actually doing fine and is not ready to die? He'll chug a big "frick You, you dumb young shite" to your 38 year old self.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:10 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
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Besides all that, what is so great about retirement anyway? Work your butt off for 40 years and physically destroy your body to get maybe 5 or 10 years in retirement? Who knows what you'll even be able to do in your 60s and 70s. It's something that I've definitely thought about since the pandemic.
quote:Based on your logic, why tf would you choose 60? So work for 40 years, then die on purpose?
You could say "okay I'm going to plan to die at 60"
Based on your thoughts on this, I'm not even joking when I say if you were truly about this, why wouldn't you just do it sooner...or now? It seems you think life is a complete waste and all you do is work then are dead before you can enjoy retirement, so what is the point of waiting until 60 then?
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:10 pm to blueridgeTiger
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I'm now 80 enjoying the heck out of what life has to offer (single malt scotch, cuban cigars and fricking beautiful women)
Pics or BS
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:12 pm to AtlanticTigerMan
End of life suffering is big part of American Christianity.
For some reason its important for the dying to suffer, rot away down to to nothing that resembles that person in life.
For some reason its important for the dying to suffer, rot away down to to nothing that resembles that person in life.
Posted on 5/17/22 at 1:13 pm to REB BEER
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pretty much hunt, fish, drink, etc. whenever I want. Don't make a ton of money, but have a great time with what I have.
100% this. If there is shite you want to do while you’re still able to do it, figure out how to and go do it. Money will always be an obstacle for certain things, but there are creative ways.
And as far as picking out a predetermined age, how would you adjust if you pick 60, and when you’re around 58 your kids have a child and you absolutely fall in love on the spot. Going to just give up the next 10-20 years just because there is a chance you may die at a later point?
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