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re: The CDC's "updated guidelines" on masks

Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:49 am to
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:49 am to
Sounds great. Now if you are positive or have symptoms wear it. The rest of us will go back to daily lives as usual
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28309 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:50 am to
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If people would just follow the recommendations, this would be closer to being over.


What data-point/metric/level/baseline signifies the pandemic is "over"? What is the SPECIFIC "goal"?

Please, feel free to answer
Posted by skinnytrees
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Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:52 am to
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What data-point/metric/level/baseline signifies the pandemic is "over"? What is the SPECIFIC "goal"?



Zero cases

Or until The Party™ owns all private business and has full control
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2617 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:52 am to
Wait. This was published today? Did we travel back in time or something because this isn’t exactly groundbreaking. I thought everyone knew the risk was substantially lower if two people in a room were wearing masks as opposed to only one.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:53 am to
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I thought everyone knew the risk was substantially lower if two people in a room were wearing masks as opposed to only one.


Sadly, the majority here will argue this.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:53 am to
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he issue is whether they help or not


The data suggest they do not.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:53 am to
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Nobody asked what you would rather. The issue is whether they help or not


what kind of shitty authoritarian Karen are you?


they're unnecessary, it doesn't matter if they "work"

if you can't see that even the "official" numbers aren't even a little scary anymore, and this is a fricking stupid argument to have, then you're pushing an agenda. Or you're too proud to admit you're wrong, and took a political stance on this.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:54 am to
quote:

What data-point/metric/level/baseline signifies the pandemic is "over"? What is the SPECIFIC "goal"?

Please, feel free to answer



Ding ding ding!
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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what kind of shitty authoritarian Karen are you?


On the contrary, tigerskin has been steadfast in calm sensibility. We’ve disagreed on certain points over the course of this year, but seems a very logical poster.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18614 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:55 am to
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Because armchair scientists oversimplify a formula with a multitude of variables.



Or they really don't do what they say.
Posted by skinnytrees
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Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:57 am to
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I thought everyone knew the risk was substantially lower if two people in a room were wearing masks as opposed to only one.


This is actually saying the opposite of everyone needs to wear the mask

Only people that have bad genetics can pretend to have the mask do anything and wear one. Because one does as much as two.

The stupid arse lie was that both people needed to wear one because it would stop the person having it from giving it and stop the person without it getting it.

Its the same with just one person having a mask on according to this. Goes through all the shite the same way.

More lies from the coronabros
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Wait. This was published today? Did we travel back in time or something because this isn’t exactly groundbreaking. I thought everyone knew the risk was substantially lower if two people in a room were wearing masks as opposed to only one.



I think you missed the point. The CDC had previously been saying that masks are effective at preventing the wearer from transmissing the virus, but not having the virus transmitted to him. This was of course obvious nonsense, but people are stupid and are sheep, and so they accepted it as fact for focking 8 months.

Now that we know the filtering effect is equal in both directions -- or, rather, now that the sheep now as well --there isn't much of an argument for mask mandates. Because if I don't care about getting the virus, and you do, you can just wear a mask and you're good. Me wearing one as well, would be like your girlfriend having an IUD and still making you frick with a rubber.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 9:58 am to
supporting the mask/lockdown idea is not sensible nor logical.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7204 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:00 am to
So, essentially, require masks --> more people go out --> more cases. Yet, somehow masks work?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:00 am to
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supporting the mask/lockdown idea is not sensible nor logical.


Lumping one in with the other isn’t either. I don’t support lockdown. I want everything wide open. I also believe it could have already come to fruition if people weren’t so stupid.
Posted by skinnytrees
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Member since Sep 2015
1805 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:01 am to
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So, essentially, require masks --> more people go out --> more cases. Yet, somehow masks work?



Its more like

Virus doesnt give a shite about masks > masks dont work
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3495 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:01 am to
But muh IT'S TO PROTECT OTHERS!!!!!!11

also I applaud your use of "directional asymmetry"

Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:01 am to
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Only people that have bad genetics can pretend to have the mask do anything and wear one. Because one does as much as two.


Goodness. LOL.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2617 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:02 am to
Regardless of the philosophy, isn’t it common fricking sense that if it stops something from getting out, it would stop it from getting in?

It’s like saying if you are inside your house with your front door shut, that from the inside you can walk through the door, but if you’re outside, you can’t walk through the door.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7675 posts
Posted on 11/12/20 at 10:02 am to
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Bull shite.

Every time I go out downtown no one has a mask.

A lot of restaurants have signs saying “if you aren’t wearing a mask we will assume you have a medical condition”

Compliance gets even worse going out to more rural locales.



In the metro area where I live, mask use is pretty universal, at least indoors. Everyone wearing in indoor settings and outdoor events where people are present. Been that way for months, yet it hasn't moved the needle. At all. We are underperforming places like Florida (which eliminated mandates) on the virus.

I once thought mask use would be a big difference maker on this. But it just hasn't happened. Just look at what is going on in Europe.
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