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"The case against DeRay Mckesson is a threat to people’s right to protest"
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:48 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:48 am
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DeRay Mckesson has been one of the more visible faces of the Black Lives Matter movement, even if there is some disagreement within the organization’s inner circle about whether the former Baltimore mayoral candidate’s role is overrated. Regardless, Mr. Mckesson has been deemed important enough to be the target of a lawsuit by a police officer who blames him for injuries suffered at a protest in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, three years ago.
Mr. Mckesson was definitely on hand for the protest held after the killing of Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot several times by police while selling CDs outside of a convenience store, and he even helped lead protesters to block a highway near police headquarters. There’s plenty of video to prove it.
What Mr. Mckesson didn’t do was hurl the piece of concrete that pushed over the police officer, known as John Doe in the lawsuit for his protection, and knocked out his teeth. No one could figure out who did that, but because Mr. Mckesson was highly visible at the march, the officer holds him responsible for his injuries, which were also afflicted to his jaw, brain and head.
In a blow to protesters everywhere, a federal appeals court earlier this month allowed the officer’s lawsuit seeking damages from Mr. Mckesson to proceed.
The decision by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is a disappointment and endorsement of an old tactic to use the courts to scare and silence protesters. It goes against Supreme Court precedent that has ruled public protest is protected under the First Amendment. (That’s probably why the case has gone largely under the radar. No one took it all that seriously.) In fact, a federal district judge first dismissed the lawsuit on First Amendment grounds before the higher court overturned that decision. The decision has the potential to set a bad precedent and hamstring future protests meant to bring attention to injustices like police brutality. It also brings to question how much responsibility protest leaders bear for other people’s actions.
The officer in court documents blamed Mr. Mckesson for doing nothing to calm the crowd and prevent the violence. He said the activist incited the riots and was seen and heard giving orders “throughout the day and night of the protests,” according to court documents. The lawsuit also claims that Mr. Mckesson and other Black Lives Matter leaders should have known violence would erupt and people could get hurt given the outcome of other protests they had led.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:50 am to trom83
As a veteran I will protect your right to protest. What I won't protect is you acting like a fricking moron by throwing shite, catching shite on fire and damaging property. I will protect the cops right to throw your sorry arse in jail at that point.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:50 am to trom83
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killing of Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot several times by police while selling CDs outside of a convenience store
Stopped reading after this bullshite line.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:51 am to trom83
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What Mr. Mckesson didn’t do was hurl the piece of concrete that pushed over the police officer, known as John Doe in the lawsuit for his protection, and knocked out his teeth. No one could figure out who did that, but because Mr. Mckesson was highly visible at the march, the officer holds him responsible for his injuries, which were also afflicted to his jaw, brain and head.
frick DeRay. Now he knows how the rest of us feel. We didn't do shite to black people, but we are constantly being blamed for whatever did happen to them. Constantly being told we are racist, when we haven't done shite. But we sure are paying for it.
Welcome to the club motherfricker.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:52 am to trom83
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What Mr. Mckesson didn’t do was hurl the piece of concrete that pushed over the police officer, known as John Doe in the lawsuit for his protection, and knocked out his teeth. No one could figure out who did that, but because Mr. Mckesson was highly visible at the march, the officer holds him responsible for his injuries, which were also afflicted to his jaw, brain and head.
Last I checked yelling FIRE in a crowded theater isn't protected speech.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:52 am to trom83
Is this the dude that thought the planet of the apes monkey wearing a ski jacket was racist?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:52 am to trom83
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Sterling, a black man who was shot several times by police while selling CDs outside of a convenience store, and he even helped lead protesters to block a highway near police headquarters.
Journalism is dead. Anyone can just make shite up and pass it as fact.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:53 am to trom83
DeRay wants to be the leader, then the buck stops with him when his followers frick up.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:54 am to trom83
He was here solely to stir up shite and incite chaos.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 10:55 am to trom83
Didn't Baltimore, a broke and warzone city, give Deray like 100k a year for some bullshite school board job despite having no qualifications other than inciting racial tension and violence?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:01 am to Golfer
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Last I checked yelling FIRE in a crowded theater isn't protected speech.
That was one statement that paraphrased the opinion rendered in a decision that was overturned. It was a case of guys distributing fliers against the draft during WW1.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:02 am to TH03
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killing of Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot several times by police while selling CDs outside of a convenience store
Upon arrival of police Mr. Sterling, a multiple convicted felon, attempted to draw an illegally possessed handgun from his pocket at which time officers physically struggling with him fired multiple shots in self defense.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:04 am to dgnx6
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Journalism is dead
On a brighter note, so is alton sterling
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:04 am to trom83
Alton wasnt shot for selling CDs
He was shot because he went for his gun that was illegal for him to own
He was shot because he went for his gun that was illegal for him to own
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:35 am to TH03
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That was one statement that paraphrased the opinion rendered in a decision that was overturned. It was a case of guys distributing fliers against the draft during WW1.
Fair enough. There are, however, plenty of other cases where someone has challenged the First Amendment when their actions or statements have directly incited violence.
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:39 am to dgnx6
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Journalism is dead. Anyone can just make shite up and pass it as fact.
This is my issue with the media. It's not the truly "fake news" stuff they want to talk about with Russian bots, etc.
It's the nuances in stories that slant the reader's opinion. In this case it's the omission of his actions while selling CD's.
Hell, just yesterday I heard a news break on WJBO regarding that guy shot in the West Baton Rouge motel last month. The reporter said the guy was shot "from behind" by a WBR deputy. Based on the information made available, that is incorrect. The bullet entered the back of the neck. No other information was given regarding the direction of his torso related to his neck and the angle from which the officer fired his weapon.
This post was edited on 8/27/19 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:40 am to trom83
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Mr. Mckesson was definitely on hand for the protest held after the killing of Alton Sterling, a black man who was shot several times by police while selling CDs outside of a convenience store, and he even helped lead protesters to block a highway near police headquarters. There’s plenty of video to prove it.
Mr McKesson intentionally and without any sense of remorse lit the match with his incendiary words which incited that violence and those words he used are not protected speech which is why he is getting his arse sued and why he will be bankrupt when this is all over and done with. Protected speech does not protect someone when they scream fire in a crowded movie theater nor does it protect someone who solicits violence against police officers in Baton Rouge.
This won't do a darn thing to stifle free speech rights in the US despite the rhetoric of what some propagandist is pushing out there. BTW the moronic rhetoric you bought into is free speech and is protected but the second that propagandist starts advocating for the the killing of judges well that's not protected speech. See the difference?
Posted on 8/27/19 at 11:45 am to trom83
Everyone that came here wanted a riot - the national media, the protestors, and the advocates. They wanted BR to burn. Screw them all.
The locals who marched on the capitol, though, didn't provoke police and didn't try to get arrested for the camera. They didn't seek confrontation, so, unfortunately for them, the got less attention. We need a free press in this country, but damn them when they want riots. CNN especially.
The locals who marched on the capitol, though, didn't provoke police and didn't try to get arrested for the camera. They didn't seek confrontation, so, unfortunately for them, the got less attention. We need a free press in this country, but damn them when they want riots. CNN especially.
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