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re: The California water shortage..I mean water isn't a finite resource

Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:06 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:06 am to
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you can certainly consume faster than it replenishes though

I mean, he is wrong, but I get his point. It's not like it's gone. It's just in a different form only to come right back again.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:08 am to
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I love the OT;

"The California water shortage..I mean water isn't a finite resource"

LINK /

'Freshwater makes up a very small fraction of all water on the planet. While nearly 70 percent of the world is covered by water, only 2.5 percent of it is fresh. The rest is saline and ocean-based. Even then, just 1 percent of our freshwater is easily accessible, with much of it trapped in glaciers and snowfields. In essence, only 0.007 percent of the planet's water is available to fuel and feed its 6.8 billion people.'

Do you think you've made a point? Water doesn't get used up, it's a cycle.
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:09 am to
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It's just in a different form only to come right back again.


but it certainly is a shortage and a crisis, regionally and during that time period

I guess we shouldn't consider hurricanes and the damage they cause a crisis? its not like brick and wood is a finite resource, we can rebuild eventually
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:09 am to
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When people say this, I envision some guy sitting in all camo with a shotgun and a bible who is about to field dress a deer. California undoubtedly has its issues, but saying it sucks is completely inaccurate. It's probably the most diverse state as far as scenery and climate go. Big Sur is awesome. San Diego is awesome. LA is meh. San Fran is awesome but$$$ and, NorCal is some of the most beautiful country i've ever seen.

The problem is when most people think of California, they think almost exclusively of the unbearably smug LA and San Francisco uber-douches.

Some of the most Republican people I've ever met are Californians from the areas outside of LA and the Bay Area. They're usually the first to bash their own state, as well.

California really is a great place to travel around though. Beautiful scenery everywhere.
Posted by Paco_taco
Dallas, Tx
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:11 am to
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e of the most Republican people I've ever met are Californians from the areas outside of LA and the Bay Area. They're usually the first to bash their own state, as well.

Inland Empire FTW
This post was edited on 8/5/16 at 9:12 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:12 am to
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Why do they not farm more in areas with more rain? Like la, ms, al? I am sure there is a logical reason but the show didn't mention it


They said something about the Imperial Valley having a 200 foot deep layer of the best topsoil on earth, plus, with their climate, they can get two growing seasons a year. And grow stuff in the winter when we can't.


Are desalinization plants prohibitively expensive, or just not feasible?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:13 am to
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When people say this, I envision some guy sitting in all camo with a shotgun and a bible who is about to field dress a deer. California undoubtedly has its issues, but saying it sucks is completely inaccurate. It's probably the most diverse state as far as scenery and climate go. Big Sur is awesome. San Diego is awesome. LA is meh. San Fran is awesome but$$$ and, NorCal is some of the most beautiful country i've ever seen.


when people from austin say this I immediately know they are a pussy
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:13 am to
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Are desalinization plants prohibitively expensive, or just not feasible?
Israel is making them work economically.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:14 am to
I got that. But some places if you pollute it or use it up faster that it is replenished, your in big trouble. At Hamilton Cove on Catalina Island they flush the toilets with salt water and if you want water at a restaurant, you have to pay for it.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:15 am to
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They said something about the Imperial Valley having a 200 foot deep layer of the best topsoil on earth, plus, with their climate, they can get two growing seasons a year. And grow stuff in the winter when we can't.


Are desalinization plants prohibitively expensive, or just not feasible?





they are epensive. I am more concerned with their toxic dust getting deposited on the food they are growing in that valley. The salton sea is toxic
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:16 am to
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but it certainly is a shortage and a crisis
Yup.

quote:

its not like brick and wood is a finite resource, we can rebuild eventually
Totally different.
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:16 am to
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from austin


Not from Austin, man. I'm from Evangeline Parish. Coonass nation. And you're right, I'm a giant pussy.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:17 am to
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I got that. But some places if you pollute it or use it up faster that it is replenished, your in big trouble. At Hamilton Cove on Catalina Island they flush the toilets with salt water and if you want water at a restaurant, you have to pay for it.



from what I understand the problem isnt lack of rainfall, it is lack of snowfall in the north that is causing the drought

Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:17 am to
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I am more concerned with their toxic dust getting deposited on the food they are growing in that valley. The salton sea is toxic


And yet, at least according to the show last night, they are making it MORE dusty by conserving water. And that dust gets over and in everything.

Is the Salton Sea even usable for ANYTHING anymore? Other than being a bird sanctuary, I think, anyways.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:18 am to
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Not from Austin, man. I'm from Evangeline Parish. Coonass nation. And you're right, I'm a giant pussy.


you lost your coonass card when you moved to austin.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37951 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:19 am to
I don't feel bad for California one bit. First and foremost, their people are annoying. Second, they have had years to do something about this and did little to nothing about it. We stepped in Vegas and took a lot of necessary measures.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:19 am to
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Says some a-hole living in shite hole Baton Rouge most likely



frick you. Go log onto the USC board and get off ours. Take Tangerine with you too.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29044 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:19 am to
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I got that. But some places if you pollute it or use it up faster that it is replenished, your in big trouble.
Yeah, but you copy-pasted about the amount of fresh water in the world, when that's clearly not the problem.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85379 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:19 am to
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Totally different.


the same dumb logic is applied
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15650 posts
Posted on 8/5/16 at 9:20 am to
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Large cities tend to spring up where they are economically feasible, not where it makes sense geographically.


Killing the Colorado said the cities in CA used less than 10% of the water. Farming was using 70-80% of the water. The farming in the Imperial Valley which has a low population was sucking the Colorado dry.
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