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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:42 pm to
Sounds like a good book.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:44 pm to
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There's an argument for Britain and it's navy. But I think there is a stronger one for Rome.


I don't think either one is wrong and i could be convinced either way.

Creating modern society, Rome.

Creating contemporary and what we think of today, Britain.

One isn't necessarily better or more important than the other.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:58 pm to
Would it be a stretch to say that the delegates of the constitutional convention qualify as an institution? It's only affected the last couple centuries so far, but the US Constitution has had a lasting effect on many other new governments.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 8:59 pm to
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the most important institution in world history.




Prove me wrong.
Posted by Bussemer
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:04 pm to
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single institutional aspect

quote:

Mongols


Except for all the rapin’
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:05 pm to
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They didn't do so hot against the Nazis.



The opposite is true. As this guy said,

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Actually, the royal navy kicked the kreigsmarine's arse.


It still amazes me when someone chimes in on a subject like this and makes a statement that not only is false, but they say it forcefully too.


Posted by glorymanutdtiger
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:07 pm to
The east India company is also very fond of stealing, genocide. Hypocrites
Posted by CroakaBait
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:10 pm to
In a choice between them and the French, I guess you had to pick the lesser of the two weevils.

Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:13 pm to
The East India Company wouldn’t have been as successful without the British Navy
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 9:28 pm
Posted by lsuroadie
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:20 pm to
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ThatMakesSense



you don't know your history very well
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:27 pm to
a lot of people are using the term “institution” in a way I personally would not use here. An institution is a formal organization or informal structure that set up mechanisms for behavior within relevant communities.

A city can not be an institution. A government office or political group or social club can be, but a city has no mechanisms that operate on their own. That’s just how I see it.

I would say that the Roman legions were not an institution and if they were, they were not the best as the Roman legions, while very effective, often failed completely in their institutional objective.
Posted by philly444
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:38 pm to
What's wrong with you baws? I like IPA's, especially double IPA's... better than Bud light
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:38 pm to
It was the rum ration.
Posted by AA77
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:45 pm to
Dan Snow did a pretty good documentary series about the Royal Navy a few years, I think it's called "Empire of the Seas" might be on youtube.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:50 pm to
I could argue the Roman Catholic Church has been more important.
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 9:58 pm to
You could.
Posted by WestlakeTiger
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:00 pm to
My murican Navy shits on this thread.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:08 pm to
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My murican Navy shits on this thread.
Not in 1675 or 1755 or 1845.

Maybe by 1905.

Certainly in 1945.

Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves...
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 10:14 pm to
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Legionaries built roads that are still used today,
I think I've driven on some of those roads in Louisiana....
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 6/1/18 at 1:55 am to
Its an interesting argument.

It doesn't just cover trade; it covers piracy, international slave trading, and other things as well as Naval battles that both capped Napoleonic and two different German Reich's abilities to wage war outside of the Continent. Oh, and they helped keep the Russians afloat when they were at low ebb on the Eastern Front.

I'd argue the Catholic Church has to be right up there, but the question is debatable.
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