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The Battle of the Bulge began on this day 78 years ago...

Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:24 pm
December 16, 1944.

The German army launches a last ditch offensive into the advancing Allied armies under the overall command of General Dwight D. Eisenhower. Hitler's forlorn hope was to repeat what his victorious armies had done to the British and French in 1940, force the Allies to sue for peace, and maybe even get them to join his war against the Russians on the Eastern Front.

The YouTube Channel "Operations Room" has an excellent multi-part documentary on what would be the largest battle the United States Army would ever participate in. Part 1 is linked below:

YouTube
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:29 pm to
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"Operations Room"

Always has quality stuff.
Posted by George Dickel
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:30 pm to
My FIL fought in the Battle of the Bulge…. as well as landing at Omaha Beach (Point du Hoc) with the Rangers on D- Day. He never talked about it until right before he died. May he RIP.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:34 pm to


My great uncle fought in the Battle of the Bulge. He lost an eye. He did, however, kill a German with a knife and steal his coat.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 12:36 pm
Posted by MAXtheTIGER
Title town
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:34 pm to
Every single time I put on underwear, the battle of the bulge is remembered
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:36 pm to
Meanwhile, the longest continuous battle in American history was wrapping up not far away…

Battle of Hürtgen Forest

Posted by Nuts
Michigan
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:48 pm to
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and maybe even get them to join his war against the Russians on the Eastern Front.

Wow. Talk about stretch goals.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:51 pm to
We did not know until his death, but my paternal grandfather was there. All he ever said about the war was, “I was in Europe.”
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 12:55 pm to
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and maybe even get them to join his war against the Russians on the Eastern Front.

Wow. Talk about stretch goals.


Well, by late 1944 Hitler was daily taking a litany of narcotics and had long since gone completely mad.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:11 pm to
We had a client who just died this year who was a veteran of the Bulge. He trained as a combat engineer but they had a shortage of infantry so they mad him a BAR man. He never said much about it except his ears got frostbit. He stayed in the National Guard after the war and was my Dad's warrant officer. He was in good health physically and mentally almost to the end, apart from being nearly stone deaf. RIP Mr. S.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:13 pm to
The US has had some spectacular intelligence failures, Pearl Harbor comes to mind, but the Battle Of the Bulge may be number 1.

While Brigade, Division, Corps and Army staffs were living in castles and drinking champagne and French brandy thinking the war was over, intel from front line units was pouring in the Germans were building up along the Ardennes front.

In some cases US solders could see the Panzers lining up in the days before the attack. Reported and dismissed, all the higher ups were planning their Christmas parties.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:33 pm to
My dad uncle and his moms side was in Bastogne in an artillery group. Another if his uncle from his dads side was a tank commander in Patton’s command that raced north.

Both had their share of stories but I was too young to appreciate them before the passed. The uncle that was a take commander boated that he brought his entire platoon of Sherman’s safely through the war.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20962 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:41 pm to
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“I was in Europe.”


I was lucky enough to have a history professor that was a 2nd lieutenant that stormed Omaha beach and was willing to talk about his experiences; he was a true academic and an expert in tracing people's civil war ancestry.

The only time he went on any tangents in class was when a young lady spoke about how horrible America was to drop a nuclear weapon. He went off on a 40 minute lecture giving the entire class a different view of the universe. He laid out his entire war history and how he would have been one of the first to storm the beaches of Japan. I mean it was captivating hearing about his experiences and how the atomic bomb saved his life. To this day anytime someone talks about American's use of those weapons in WWII, I think specifically of him.

My uncle's father-in-law was in Paton's legion that relived Bastogne. All he would say was that he was in Europe too.

My grandfather was in the navy on an air craft carrier assigned to the Atlantic theater.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted by sqerty
AP
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:46 pm to
Does anybody know how many are still alive?
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:46 pm to
It is currently 26 degrees Fahrenheit in Bastogne. Low is 18 tonight.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:47 pm to
Lee Smith was an economics prof at La Tech who had been a Navy Fighter pilot in WWII. He would talk about it once in a while.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Lee Smith was an economics prof at La Tech who had been a Navy Fighter pilot in WWII. He would talk about it once in a while.


quote:

Bertram H. Groene

LINK
This one and only book, I have a first edition signed by the author that has been on my bookshelf for the past 30 years.
Posted by sledgehammer
SWLA
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:53 pm to
I saw your thread title and immediately thought of the operations room doc on the battle.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20962 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:59 pm to
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Does anybody know how many are still alive?


Not many,

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They are dying quickly—according to US Department of Veterans Affairs statistics, 167,284 of the 16 million Americans who served in World War II are alive in 2022
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3480 posts
Posted on 12/16/22 at 1:59 pm to
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May he RIP.



Amen, great man and Patriot, thank you for your family's service.
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