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The Battle of Lookout Mountain was waged on this day 160 years ago...
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:42 am
Ever since the Battle of Chickmauga had come to an end in late-September 1863, the Confederate Army of Tennessee had been besieging the Union Army of the Cumberland in the city of Chattanooga. Seeing the strategic initiative beginning to slip away from the Union, President Abraham Lincoln promoted Ulysses S. Grant to Major General of the Regular Army and gave him command of the entire Western Theater. Seeing Chattanooga as the cockpit of the Confederate effort in his theater, Grant set off at once to Chattanooga with reinforcements.
He immediately broke the siege and established a "cracker line" of supplies to the Army of the Cumberland. By late-November he was finally ready to begin a counter-offensive against the forces of General Braxton Bragg. The first blow to fall was on the seemingly impregnable position of Lookout Mountain. Major General Joseph "Fighting Joe" Hooker with elements of XI and XII Corps (some 12,000 men in all) was tasked with taking the strategic position.
On the morning of November 24, 1863, under cover of a thick fog, Hooker's divisions stormed the Confederate positions and took the defenders by surprise. The brigades of Cheatham an Stevenson were thrown from the mountain and the position fell with light casualties on both sides (some 700 total casualties for Hooker and 1,300 casualties for the Confederates under Cheatham/Stevenson).
The Battle of Lookout Mountain and its subsequent capture paved the way for Grant to launch a larger, more decisive offensive on November 25 against the center of the Confederate position, located on Missionary Ridge.
He immediately broke the siege and established a "cracker line" of supplies to the Army of the Cumberland. By late-November he was finally ready to begin a counter-offensive against the forces of General Braxton Bragg. The first blow to fall was on the seemingly impregnable position of Lookout Mountain. Major General Joseph "Fighting Joe" Hooker with elements of XI and XII Corps (some 12,000 men in all) was tasked with taking the strategic position.
On the morning of November 24, 1863, under cover of a thick fog, Hooker's divisions stormed the Confederate positions and took the defenders by surprise. The brigades of Cheatham an Stevenson were thrown from the mountain and the position fell with light casualties on both sides (some 700 total casualties for Hooker and 1,300 casualties for the Confederates under Cheatham/Stevenson).
The Battle of Lookout Mountain and its subsequent capture paved the way for Grant to launch a larger, more decisive offensive on November 25 against the center of the Confederate position, located on Missionary Ridge.
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Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:45 am to RollTide1987
They were focused on the mountain when the signs clearly told them to See Rock City.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:46 am to RollTide1987
It’s amazing what the federal government would do to force states to remain “United”
Posted on 11/24/23 at 9:47 am to tigerinexile
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It’s amazing what the federal government would do to force states to remain “United”
Yep. And in so doing made the United States the most powerful and most prosperous nation in the history of the world.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:05 am to RollTide1987
Looking like time for another civil war.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 10:08 am to RollTide1987
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Oh I'll speak my Southern English just as natural as I please
I'm in the heart of Dixie, dixie's in the heart of me
And someday when I make it, when love finds a way
Somewhere high on Lookout Mountain I'll just smile with pride and say
That my home's in Alabama. No matter where I lay my head.
My home's in Alabama, Southern born and Southern bred.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:12 am to RollTide1987
It really was Grant's finest work. He kicked an entrenched army off a mountain.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:18 am to RollTide1987
I have a relative on my mom’s side that was taken prisoner at Lookout Mountain.
He spent the rest of war at Rock Island prison, then lived to be in his 90’s
He spent the rest of war at Rock Island prison, then lived to be in his 90’s
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:22 am to tigerinexile
quote:yep. They don't appreciate traitors
It’s amazing what the federal government would do to force states to remain “United”
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:22 am to KiwiHead
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It really was Grant's finest work
Ulysses S. Grant was the Napoleon Bonaparte of the mid-19th century. He's a man who came from nothing to command an army of over a million men and lead them to victory in one of the bloodiest conflicts of the period. Afterwards he tossed his hat into the political arena and served as a two-term president - the last of the 19th century until Theodore Roosevelt was re-elected to a second term in 1904.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:24 am to tigerinexile
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It’s amazing what the federal government would do to force states to remain “United”
FAFO
Posted on 11/24/23 at 11:29 am to RollTide1987
Can't even defend high ground against an uphill assault.
Fire Bragg. Fire Davis. Worse defensive coaching than Tepper.
Fire Bragg. Fire Davis. Worse defensive coaching than Tepper.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:50 pm to RollTide1987
In the South he really does not get the credit he deserves. We talk about Lee and his audacity. but Grant was a master at planning and execution. He knew he had a superior plan and worked it come hell or high water. Should have been wiped out at Shiloh but found away. Had no business taking Lookout Mtn....takes it. Others would have withdrawn from the field during the Overland campaign and he kept his army on the field figuring he had to wear Lee out.....wore his arse out.
No Civil War and Sam Grant is not even a footnote in history but he took his opportunity and made a name for himself. Funny how that happens and how events can uncover strengths in people. The man was on his way to abject failure prior to 1861.
No Civil War and Sam Grant is not even a footnote in history but he took his opportunity and made a name for himself. Funny how that happens and how events can uncover strengths in people. The man was on his way to abject failure prior to 1861.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:01 pm to tigerinexile
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It’s amazing what the federal government would do to force states to remain “United”
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:07 pm to RollTide1987
We went there. Incredible view of the city.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 6:19 pm to RollTide1987
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Ulysses S. Grant was the Napoleon Bonaparte of the mid-19th century.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 7:56 pm to RollTide1987
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Yep. And in so doing made the United States the most powerful and most prosperous nation in the history of the world.
C’mon man!
You cannot tell me you wouldn’t be better off without the blue Yankee states and California!
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:16 am to RollTide1987
My gg grandfather was in the rifle pits at the base of Missionary Ridge, and after falling back to the top of the ridge, lost an eye, got captured and spent the rest of his war at Rock Island as a POW.
We still have one of his diaries, there are more out there somewhere, (7 or 8) but were stolen from my grandfather.
We still have one of his diaries, there are more out there somewhere, (7 or 8) but were stolen from my grandfather.
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 6:21 am
Posted on 11/25/23 at 6:27 am to KiwiHead
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No Civil War and Sam Grant is not even a footnote in history but he took his opportunity and made a name for himself. Funny how that happens and how events can uncover strengths in people. The man was on his way to abject failure prior to 1861.
Grant epitomizes the American dream as far as I'm concerned. He's a man of blue collar, middle class upbringing who absolutely fails at everything in life aside from marriage prior to the outbreak of the American Civil War. When Lincoln was elected in November 1860, he was a book keeper working for his younger brother at their father's store. Eight years later he himself would be getting elected President of the United States.
Dude loses all of his money thanks to the Bernie Madoff of his day and survives on other peoples' charity before finding out he's dying of throat cancer. Worried that he will leave his family destitute and homeless upon his death, he embarked on a race against time to write and publish his memoirs, sometimes writing more than 10,000 words in a single day. He finished writing them quite literally one week before his death. When they were finally published, they were among the best selling works of American literature of the 19th century, guaranteeing that his family would not have to want for anything for the remainder of their lives.
What's crazy about the man's memoirs is how so well-written they are. There were accusations from some critics that Mark Twain must have ghostwritten them because of how eloquent and well put together the text as. However, Twain swore until his dying day that all he did was publish and never once polished or re-wrote Grant's words.
Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:19 am to KiwiHead
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We talk about Lee and his audacity.
It pisses me off that southerners hold some type of reverence for Lee and Davis. These two got 250k good men killed in an unwinnable war, that set the south back one hundred years. The kicker, the common foot solider was actually fighting against his own interests as slavery depressed wages for lower class white southerners. Slavery was on its death throes anyway as many countries were stated to ban trade with slave nations. At most it would have lasted another couple of decades. The CW was the ultimate rich man's war.
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