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re: The amount of old people I see working menial jobs these days is way too high

Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60841 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:07 am to
Ok, so you start off with a plan, and then life happens.
Posted by cheobode
Member since Dec 2017
1417 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:08 am to
My old bus driver from elementary drove buses for over 40 years and worked on lawnmowers on the weekends for extra cash. You would think after 40 years, you could retire and enjoy the rest of your life.

Nope.

He and his wife(who never worked) wanted the best of the best and splurged every chance they got. He ended up working at Wal-Mart to supplement his income and turned into a mean old bastard. They didn't have any kids either.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:09 am to
It’s incredible how presumptuous so many posters are lol

You can definitely tell what age group lots of people fall into in this thread
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38623 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:10 am to
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They may have a lot more money than you


Statistically we know that they do not, on average. Half of all 65-74 year olds have LESS than 266k NW.
Posted by KCSilverTiger
KCMO
Member since Sep 2022
820 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:12 am to
My dad is retired but now delivers pizzas because it is an easy job and gives him something to do. He loves it. Gets him out of the house for a bit and a little cash in his pocket. They wanted to make him a manager but he told them hell naw. I figure when I retire I might like working at a golf course or something.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
38623 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:12 am to
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They're getting out of the house and have the opportunity to meet new people and see new places in their area.


When is the last time you spoke to your food delivery driver for more than 10 seconds? I don't think I ever have. 95% of the time I do not interact with them at all.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
16688 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:12 am to
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Brandon and his handlers happened


This phenomenon didn't begin in the last 2 years.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30860 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:13 am to
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When is the last time you spoke to your food delivery driver for more than 10 seconds? I don't think I ever have. 95% of the time I do not interact with them at all.



They're clearly below you so I could see why you wouldn't talk with them.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:13 am to
They might though

Are these people taking a job from you or something?
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1921 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:14 am to
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Inflation is royally screwing the older people on fixed incomes.


Here is the answer. If the savings, pensions and social security did not account for this massive jump in the cost of everything (probably most did not) then tough choices have to be made. Some of this had to do with timing of their retirement. 4 years ago, pre-covid nonsense it seemed most of recent retirees thought their nest eggs would grow and the rates they had gotten use to. Never mind the underlying structural problems of a financial system addicted to free government cash flows. This downturn should have happened in 2008 but the too big to fail mantra brought us this free cash infusions. This only delayed the inevitable which is where we are today. Now back to the timing….if you retired right before or during the covid era your finances could be in jeopardy if you were assuming you were going to pull from your savings to live. This works if you have large cash reserves to withstand a multi year downturn. If not your burn rate on cash and savings is very strong right now especially on a fixed income. If you retired many years ago and you enjoyed great returns then you may have the time and savings to withstand this. Either way this time we live in will alter retirement plans for years to come. Get use to seeing the older generation having to work.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
9002 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:14 am to
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you don't make shite for money but the mileage write-off pays off huge for tax season.


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pays off huge for tax season


Wearing out your car and making no money to own Uncle Sam!

Brilliant!
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15087 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:14 am to
All the olds that work at Publix say they do it for the benefits and to get out of the house.

Same for toll booth workers.

This is all according to my grandfather who hits on all the older women at these places.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
39147 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:15 am to
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Every time I see one, I say a prayer that I’m not still working at that age.

Let me turn the light bulb on for you.
These old farts worked jobs like you and were comfortable. As they aged recent inflation has forced many back to work. You don't get medicare until youre 65 so how would one get health insurance at a reasonable rate? As for door dash jobs...a little side money doesn't hurt anyone.
Nice of you to trash a segment of people to make yourself proud. Have a nice day, ignoramus.
Posted by biscuitsngravy
Tejas, north America
Member since Jan 2011
3494 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:16 am to
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Same things that happen to young people- refuse to buy a smaller house, refuse to drive older cars, taking care of kids/grandkids, unexpected big medical bills, etc.


This. Consumption lifestyle. Live paycheck to paycheck driving a suburban and f250, big house mortgage and you're bagging groceries in your 70's.
Posted by BowDownToLSU
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
20368 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:17 am to
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They’re still feeding their 30 year old children living at home.
and grandchildren
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
30860 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:18 am to
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Wearing out your car and making no money to own Uncle Sam!



Definitely not a good idea to use your nice vehicles for this line of work but for retirees who are pulling money out of their pre-tax investments it would be very beneficial since it would reduce their taxable income hit (401k and Trad IRA,) I am sure you knew that though.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58831 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:20 am to
Think about this ....

In the middle 50's a single wage earner could support

(1) spouse
(2-3) kids
(1) house, furnished, with a yard
(2) cars
(2) pets
(1) club membership - say for golf
(2) social memberships - say Elks and Shriners

Since then the cost of living has been creeping up but minimum wage has been relatively flat compared to the actual cost of living. Every time they raise minimum wage, they raise the cost of living by more so your wages actually buy less.


On the flip side we have stopped saving and let debt mount. If interest rates continue to rise we are heading toward a Prefect Storm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51663 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:20 am to
My mom didn't enjoy being retired. She found something to do until her health essentially forced her to stop. My dad retired as soon as he was able to and never looked back.
Posted by Colonel Angus
Member since Aug 2007
1889 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:22 am to
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For all the "just getting out of the house at ~65" people: have they never heard of golf? Tennis? Hiking a trail?


Our CEO is in his 70s. Has TONS of money. Has zero hobbies and no interest in gaining any. Does NOT golf, play tennis, fish, hunt, hike, work on old cars, etc. Goes to the gym every day for 2 hours. That's his hobby. Takes a vacation about every 2-3 years. Can't stand his wife.

He will be carried out of here on a stretcher. Our office is his social outlet.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
75042 posts
Posted on 2/27/23 at 9:23 am to
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This. Consumption lifestyle. Live paycheck to paycheck driving a suburban and f250, big house mortgage and you're bagging groceries in your 70's.
Yep.

Scruffy will never understand that mindset, especially when the cheaper options have all the same amenities nowadays.

Every car has the same important offerings for the most part. Air conditioning, heater, airbags, seatbelts, cruise control, radio, etc.

Why do I need the Toyota Tacoma or Tundra when I can purchase the GMC Canyon for $20k less? Why do you need the Porsche or BMW? If you can afford it without any issues, go ahead, but so many people make purchases without thinking beyond the moment and they do not have the money to spare.

Why do you want the $1000 car note?

Why do you want the 4 bedroom, 3 bath house when you have no kids and there is a perfectly reasonable option for 100s of thousands less that offers the same amenities?

Same goes for clothes and other items.

Got to one up the Joneses, Scruffy guesses.
This post was edited on 2/27/23 at 9:26 am
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