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re: The Allies began firebombing Dresden on this day 80 years ago...
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:58 pm to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 2/13/25 at 1:58 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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You said during WWII, not in the entire history of our country. During WWII there was a clear good versus evil
Irrelevant to my point. If you did something 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago, you still did thst thing. If it was so cut and dry, why did the US refuse a ship of 50k Jews?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:14 pm to geauxbrown
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would have stopped gassing Jews
The gas chambers were wartime propaganda like the Rape of Belgium
There was no massive gas chamber system, we didn’t find one after the war, and the Germans didn’t have crematoria to support one either. It also just wouldn’t have been efficient, they would have been better off just shooting people instead.
Paul Rassinier, he was a prison at Buchenwald, concluded the story wasn’t true
The big killer in the camps was probably disease
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:32 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The gas chambers were wartime propaganda
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Lima Whiskey
You're a fricking moron
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:38 pm to RollTide1987
Bet they think twice before bombing Pearl Harbor again
Posted on 2/13/25 at 2:49 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Jews were the driving force of communism and degeneracy in Weimar Republic.
That is the same collective guilt that has fueled 1000 years of programs and persecution in Europe.
In bucket A, you have some people who were Jewish and prominent communists.
In bucket B, you have some people who were German Jews making a living like everyone else.
Bucket B is an ocean of people, bucket A is a drop.
And yet the people in Bucket B were eradicated because of the people in Bucket C (which of course was filled with Nazis).
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:08 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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You're a fricking moron
No. That isn't what he is.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:20 pm to Cracker
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Read Fredrick Taylor’s book Dresden.
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“A picture markedly different from conventional accounts.” --New York Times Book Review The dramatic and controversial account that completely re-examines the Allied attack on Dresden For decades it has been assumed that the Allied bombing of Dresden was militarily unjustifiable, an act of rage and retribution for Germany’s ceaseless bombing of London and other parts of England. In Dresden, Frederick Taylor’s groundbreaking research offers a completely new examination of the facts, and reveals that Dresden was a highly-militarized city actively involved in the production of military armaments and communications concealed beneath the cultural elegance for which the city was famous. Incorporating first-hand accounts, contemporaneous press material and memoirs, and never-before-seen government records, Taylor documents unequivocally the very real military threat Dresden posed, and thus altering forever our view of that attack.
Dresden: Tuesday, February 13, 1945 (on Amazon
Paperback is $11.50.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:44 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:He's a heretic.
You're a fricking moron
Posted on 2/13/25 at 3:58 pm to LegendInMyMind
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No. That isn't what he is.
Seems to me that the sets of frickin morons and Klan-level anti-Semites aren’t mutually exclusive.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:07 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Irrelevant to my point. If you did something 5 minutes ago or 5 years ago, you still did thst thing. If it was so cut and dry, why did the US refuse a ship of 50k Jews?
100 years in the past is significantly different than 5 years ago though. There were generations that came and died between that time, and massive societal changes that drastically altered who Americans were.
As for the ship load of Jews, America wasn’t perfect but was clearly the better actor. I don’t think you’re saying that America refusing a shipment of 50,000 refugees is the equivalent of systematically murdering over 6,000,000, are you?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:28 pm to RollTide1987
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the city of Dresden, Germany.
Boom! Roasted!
Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:31 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Paul Rassinier, he was a prison at Buchenwald, concluded the story wasn’t true
I know nothing of Paul Rassinier but I do know that he was indeed correct, there were no gas chambers at Buchenwald. The aforementioned camp was a forced labor camp located inside Germany. None of the extermination camps existed inside the borders of the Reich. They were all in German-occupied Poland and there were only six of them: Auschwitz, Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, and Lublin.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:53 pm to DesScorp
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Theres also a fascinating chapter on how napalm was accidentally discovered (it started as wallpaper glue. Then the wallpaper started to spontaneously combust. They sent samples to Harvard to figure it out).
I liked that piece too. I always thought it was invented later.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 4:54 pm to RollTide1987
You know what they say.... how did the Germans nazi that coming?
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 2/14/25 at 3:50 pm to RollTide1987
For 8th grade social studies class, we had to find a WWII veteran and interview them. The person we interviewed flew in the Pacific (can't remember what his role was, or what plane but anyhow).
His take, was that the level of devastation (fire engulfing the whole city) wasn't intentional for Dresden...but after seeing it, the Allies intently tried to do the same when bombing Japan.
His take, was that the level of devastation (fire engulfing the whole city) wasn't intentional for Dresden...but after seeing it, the Allies intently tried to do the same when bombing Japan.
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