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re: The Advocate finally asks the question: Too many universities in La?
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:16 pm to ihometiger
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:16 pm to ihometiger
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Follow the states which have a similar population makeup. Colorado or South Carolina. All have two major universities and everything else is private or 2 year
This, but your examples are poor. Colorado has 12 4-yr public universities and SC has 15 if you count all of the University of South Carolina campuses.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:19 pm to Golfer
Southern is a bad example.
Let's say for example you are a poor white kid from Jackson, MS and you want to stay close to home for college. Your best bet is probably Jackson State.
Moo State, Ole Miss, and USM are all at least 90 minutes away.
Let's say for example you are a poor white kid from Jackson, MS and you want to stay close to home for college. Your best bet is probably Jackson State.
Moo State, Ole Miss, and USM are all at least 90 minutes away.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:24 pm to MadMaxwell
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I'm not the one that couldn't hack it at 3 different schools. High five.
You exposed yourself.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:29 pm to LordSaintly
Sounds like a problem for Mississippi. Not Louisiana.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 10:40 pm to Golfer
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Sounds like a problem for Mississippi. Not Louisiana.
I was talking about the state of HBCUs in general and MacIntosh's incorrect assumption about white students not wanting to be in classes with black students. It's demonstrably false.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:09 pm to Redbone
quote:UNO makes almost everyone take a literature class. No other school in the state requires my major to take a literature class. Pretty sure I wrote fricking book reports in 5th grade and there's no reason to now. No reason to take away a chance to get another elective in by requiring a literature class. All it does is needlessly prop up the literature department.
They need to cut out a bunch of useless arse class at these schools too
I'm fighting the administration tooth and nail on that one
Posted on 1/24/16 at 11:20 pm to jeffsdad
Wow. Collegeatlas.org looks like such a credible and reliable website that I and everyone else on this board have not heard of before.
This is the classic case of some website that is a step above a blog, ranking institutions based on some random method involving variables that respected ranking services dont consider or weight different.
Look at this list LINK
If you arent smelling bullshite within about 20 seconds, its because the article is just supporting your school. Plus, we can already see that 50% of the criteria have nothing to do with how good of a school it is. It is admittedly not an academic ranking of the best nursing schools. Classic article that people pass around to their friends and take pride in after just looking at the list without using any sense or reading the criteria.
Meanwhile, the exact same website also posted this LINK
which is from u.s. news and business because they obviously know their academic rankings suck. So Im gonna go with the reputable rankings that are focused more on academics than the hole in the wall. You wont find any school from Louisiana sniffing the top of that list.
This is the classic case of some website that is a step above a blog, ranking institutions based on some random method involving variables that respected ranking services dont consider or weight different.
Look at this list LINK
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his list ranks the top nursing schools in the US based on four things that matter most to you: Affordability, Academic Quality, Accessibility, and NCLEX-RN board exam pass rates.
If you arent smelling bullshite within about 20 seconds, its because the article is just supporting your school. Plus, we can already see that 50% of the criteria have nothing to do with how good of a school it is. It is admittedly not an academic ranking of the best nursing schools. Classic article that people pass around to their friends and take pride in after just looking at the list without using any sense or reading the criteria.
Meanwhile, the exact same website also posted this LINK
which is from u.s. news and business because they obviously know their academic rankings suck. So Im gonna go with the reputable rankings that are focused more on academics than the hole in the wall. You wont find any school from Louisiana sniffing the top of that list.
This post was edited on 1/24/16 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 1/25/16 at 3:20 am to Freauxzen
LSUA has experienced unprecedented growth since going 4 yr. It gives many a chance to attend college, who would not otherwise due to inability to relocate due to job and/or family obligations.
A.) Merge Grambling and SU- Shreveport with LA Tech. Other option would be to close SU-Shreveport, and make Grambling part of the SU system for administrative efficiencies. You would have an SU south and an SU north.
B.) Any place that has more than one technical/community college in town - consolidate them for administrative efficiencies.
C.) Close SUNO and put UNO back under LSU for administrative efficiencies.
D.) Require all 1-A athletic programs requiring state support to drop back to 1-AA,. fix a state league, and play each other. Helps keep the money in the state, cuts on administrative/recruiting costs, and cuts down on travel among other things.
A.) Merge Grambling and SU- Shreveport with LA Tech. Other option would be to close SU-Shreveport, and make Grambling part of the SU system for administrative efficiencies. You would have an SU south and an SU north.
B.) Any place that has more than one technical/community college in town - consolidate them for administrative efficiencies.
C.) Close SUNO and put UNO back under LSU for administrative efficiencies.
D.) Require all 1-A athletic programs requiring state support to drop back to 1-AA,. fix a state league, and play each other. Helps keep the money in the state, cuts on administrative/recruiting costs, and cuts down on travel among other things.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:06 am to Havoc
quote:So you graduated from all four? We both know you didn't. I'm guessing the final stats were 0-4 with 3 flunk outs and a parents-cutting-you-off?
You pose as enlightened but can only imagine attending different universities is due to flunking out
You want to debate, but have no argument, no substance to anything you say, just standard whining and name-calling. You just reek of academic achievement.
How's the pay and benefits at Domino's these days?
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:14 am to MadMaxwell
Has anybody here gave a dollar number that will be saved by closing all these schools
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:16 am to Hammertime
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UNO makes almost everyone take a literature class. No other school in the state requires my major to take a literature class.
Are you sure about this? Most schools make all majors take history and literature courses. They claim that it helps to shape a more well-rounded citizen.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:20 am to Slippy
As I post in all these threads:
1. Immediately close Grambling, Southern, SUNO, and any other Southerns. They are relics of segregation that should be dispensed with
2. Scale back SELU and Nichols to CCs
3. Merge Tech and ULM
4. Cut ULL's enrollment in half and rename it The U of Acadiana
That's a start
1. Immediately close Grambling, Southern, SUNO, and any other Southerns. They are relics of segregation that should be dispensed with
2. Scale back SELU and Nichols to CCs
3. Merge Tech and ULM
4. Cut ULL's enrollment in half and rename it The U of Acadiana
That's a start
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:37 am to Slippy
The big problem whether we shuttered some down and consolidate, is some of those smaller schools have better undergrad programs in certain areas. Any plan should be mindful of that and take those programs and bring over to replace inferior one.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:39 am to Slippy
The OP's article is a little misleading. Many of Florida's former community colleges now offer four year degrees. So the real number of college in Florida offering 4 year degrees is probably closer to 25.
Mississippi has a bigger problem with too many schools than Louisiana. Something like 9 four-year schools.
Mississippi has a bigger problem with too many schools than Louisiana. Something like 9 four-year schools.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:42 am to Kafka
I think the baseline for admission to any of the four year schools should be a 3.0 or above and a 23+ on the ACT. That would solve a lot of problems right there.
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 10:42 am
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:45 am to hottub
quote:not really
Mississippi has a bigger problem with too many schools than Louisiana
integrate alcorn and jackson state (since it's in a horrible part of town even by jackhole standards, maybe move it to raymond's CC campus), close valley and the women's college
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:49 am to NIH
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baseline for admission to any of the four year schools should be a 3.0 or above and a 23+
That's a fair standard for undergraduate. But what about grad school, it can be trickier considerING some schools are not as prestigious as others. Example: ULL or Northwestern have no business requiring the same GPA and GRE as LSU would for a better Grad program.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:50 am to Slippy
Some of the posts in this thread are truly unbelievable.
For starters, closing Grambling and/or Southern? Yeah, good luck with that.
And "oh, just make this 10K+ student-enrolled 4 year university into a CC". Really?
For starters, closing Grambling and/or Southern? Yeah, good luck with that.
And "oh, just make this 10K+ student-enrolled 4 year university into a CC". Really?
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/25/16 at 10:56 am to LordSaintly
Yes. I looked up ME flowcharts for all schools in Louisiana and MS last year. The counselor and Dean here told me that it was required by the state for every student to take a literature class. I knew that to be false because I already have one degree and didn't take it, so I looked it up
quote:What would you do with someone like me who had a 2.3 and 32? What about people who take a year or two to work or go into the military?
I think the baseline for admission to any of the four year schools should be a 3.0 or above and a 23+ on the ACT.
This post was edited on 1/25/16 at 11:03 am
Posted on 1/25/16 at 11:02 am to NIH
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I think the baseline for admission to any of the four year schools should be a 3.0 or above and a 23+ on the ACT.
I wouldn't have gotten into ULL.
I'm okay allowing a lower GPA with a higher ACT, or vice versa.
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