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Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:19 pm to Sun God
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It looks a lot better than the shitty knock-offs of old Land Rovers that Land Rover is currently manufacturing
Every time I see a new “Defender” it lets me know they have more dollars than sense.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:54 pm to Dragula
Just put my name on the list for the Overtrail+. 20 people ahead of me, most are for premium and luxury trims. No dealer markup either.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:31 pm to Free888
Did they give you any sort of time table?
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:35 pm to Free888
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Just put my name on the list for the Overtrail+. 20 people ahead of me, most are for premium and luxury trims. No dealer markup either.
Sweet. I’m holding out to see if the 25 models offer a version with the third row, lockers and hybrid together. Really wish they would just make the Overtrail with a third row option.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:10 am to billjamin
Still hearing Q1 next year. Latest rumor is the Overtrail+ starts at $85k. Ouch.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:17 am to Free888
Where are you on the list? Price Leblanc?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:20 am to jordan21210
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People were willing to pay top dollar and overlook lack of standard equipment on Tacoma/4Runner/Tundra/Sequoia because the V6 and V8 can reliably get you 250,000 miles or more.
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Hopefully the new turbo motors prove the same.
They won't be.
There are no free lunches. It's the same manufacturer. With the same standards. But there's a smaller motor being asked to do much more, with turbochargers added on. I know why they're doing it (fed mandates for CAFE/emissions). But this is very far from the "unstressed" V6/V8s that Toyota has made their reputation on.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:26 am to Street Hawk
I drove one of these in college...the boxy-ness is what made it awesome. Mine was red, and I would refer to it as "the brick"
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:00 am to Motorboat
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Where are you on the list?
There’s 20 people ahead of me on the list at my dealer, but he told me most are for Premium and Luxury. I think I’m 2 or 3 for the Overtrail. He did confirm no markup, but price tbd.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 7:23 am to kengel2
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Some people are smart: $30k SUV with $500 rooftop cargo or $70k SUV
And the really smart ones buy a minivan since that’s what they need
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:03 am to Street Hawk
Will have problems shedding rocks like other semi vertical windshield vehicles.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:06 am to tadman
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What looks really dumb is when you see people with a cartop carrier because they were too dumb to buy a family car that actually holds stuff.
Too dumb or too poor?
The “family cars” you are talking about will cost 30-100% more than the vehicles you posted.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:11 am to fightin tigers
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Unless they are going to strip it down a ton there is little hope it comes in below that.
There’s no way in hell the new US Landcruiser starts anywhere close to 100k assuming it’s prado/gx based.
This post was edited on 9/8/23 at 8:17 am
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:37 am to Street Hawk
This is what you get when you sell the Bronco. Now everything will look like an old Jeep Cherokee.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 8:43 am to tadman
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What looks really dumb is when you see people with a cartop carrier because they were too dumb to buy a family car that actually holds stuff.
Or they’re very smart and buy enough car for what they need 90% of the time and supplement with a roof box when necessary the other 10% of the time.
Posted on 9/8/23 at 9:04 am to Street Hawk
Needs more grill 
Posted on 9/11/23 at 8:42 am to JohnnyKilroy
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There’s no way in hell the new US Landcruiser starts anywhere close to 100k assuming it’s prado/gx based.
Base Land Cruiser is supposed to start in the mid 50's. Probably gets to 70k or so fully loaded.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:31 am to Free888
The new GX is the best-looking SUV I’ve seen in a very long time. If it has the bulletproof reliability of the older ones , it’ll be on my list. Would consider 2nd or 3rd model year.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 9:46 am to Warfox
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Looks like a 1990’s Land Cruiser(a good thing)
Exactly, I was going to say very similar to a '95 Land Cruiser.
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