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re: Texas universities are moving more classes online but keeping tuition the same.

Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103112 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:00 pm to
If I am paying $40k/semester or whatever ungodly rate UT charges OOS, I would expect better than online classes.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40200 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:02 pm to
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If I am paying $40k/semester or whatever ungodly rate UT charges OOS, I would expect better than online classes.


Why? What is different about the quality of education? Your kids can sleep through an online lecture the same way they are sleeping through an in-person lecture =)

And if anyone is paying rack rates to attend any school, even a school like UT, they need to re-think their life choices, and it's hard for me to feel bad for them.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14377 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:03 pm to
this is just starting to show the world that we dont need brick and mortar colleges. we can make do with one central university for a region and everyone telecommute

time to shut down some smaller state schools....
Posted by Sailor
Member since Jun 2020
45 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:04 pm to
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I’d suggest a lot of gap years for some of these kids.

Work as a bartender or something and chill


The real world blows and no need to hurry through internet college to get into it


Agree. If there's going to be any time to take a year off and do "self discovery" this would be it. My niece starts college this fall and honestly if she wasn't admitted into the honors college at UK I would recommend she take the year off. She inquired but they indicated if she delayed enrolling she would not be guaranteed honors placement next year. She would essentially have to reapply.

But yeah for a lot of regular students starting college this year or maybe still in their freshmen or sophomore years I would truly consider taking this year off. It's going to be a sh*tshow and the level of education will be down dramatically IMO.
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
101264 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Why? What is different about the quality of education?


U.S. Colleges: Where Does The Money Go?

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Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61272 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:16 pm to
My friend's kid goes to Baylor(I think) and they are pissed that whatever school it is will be pretty much all online for the fall. The student wants to just do his work from home, but the school isn't letting him out of his dorm "commitment".
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26388 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:20 pm to
How does Out of State tuition work for online classes?
Posted by vistajay
Member since Oct 2012
2807 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:23 pm to
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Rates for college apartments have to plunder.


Not seeing that so far for my son and his friends. Most students will have a mixture of online and in person classes and in any event want to be nearby the school and their friends. Plus many schools are allowing freshmen to live off campus so they can keep the campus dorms less populated, and those freshmen are competing for off-campus housing with upperclassmen.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:23 pm to
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College apartment construction has been out of control where I'm from.



Pretty much every large state school has been tearing down all the old jaunts close to campus to put up large paper thin wall construction "luxury" apartments.

Endless rows up the same looking cheap "modern" looking mega builds.

Man it will feel so good to watch those things eat a large amount of shite. So many classic college places ruined for them.

Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31661 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:37 pm to
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But yeah for a lot of regular students starting college this year or maybe still in their freshmen or sophomore years I would truly consider taking this year off. It's going to be a sh*tshow and the level of education will be down dramatically IMO.
Hell, they should take online freshman level courses through a JrCollege at a fraction of the price of a major university if they're right out of HS. Knock out those English/WestCiv/English Lit courses.

Of course your niece likely took AP courses in HS and she doesn't need ENG 101-102, etc.

Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31775 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:41 pm to
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Rates for college apartments have to plunder.


Yes, I imagine those high rise apartments all around Alec Box and around Burbank are going to be half full. They absolutely have to be crisis mode right now.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6088 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:46 pm to
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Online teaching takes 3-4 times more time as an educator to put together and execute than face to face. It requires more technology. So costing the same is not an issue to worry about.

Think about the jeans u buy online. They aren’t cheaper than going to the American eagle and getting them.




Online, one instructor can reach many more students than in a physical classroom.

A local preacher simulcasts his sermons, where he was reaching 5k people a Sunday, he now reaches 20k.

Additionally those technology costs come down over the time and the university can eventually spend less on facility construction, maintenance, utilities, security and cleaning.

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12630 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:55 pm to
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The student wants to just do his work from home, but the school isn't letting him out of his dorm "commitment".

This is the kind of shite that exposes the schools’ true motivations. If someone wants to argue that online classes require the same level of instructor time, fine. But it’s hard to defend dorm requirements as anything other than the schools trying to recoup their investment, regardless of whether it benefits students.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 7/6/20 at 2:58 pm to
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Online, one instructor can reach many more students than in a physical classroom.



No one wants to talk about that

In my freshman/sophomore business classes there would be 4-5 professors for each and every course number it seemed like.

If you do it online you would only need 1 of them and a handful of TAs. Way cheaper.

But they would never dare. This is higher education. Where you need an administrator for every student and one director for every 2 administrators.

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