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re: Texas and LA Construction
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:20 pm to SirSaintly
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:20 pm to SirSaintly
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Mine is in the insulated garage, but yes, tankless would be fine in attic, I guess. However, many builders are still putting regular water heaters in the attic.
It’s definitely a risk that has to be considered.
Tanks rupture in time. It’s just not the cold. A safe pan can mitigate that if the rupture is slight but not a catastrophic failure.
Piping in the attic needs to be insulated, HW taps need to be open periodically too so that water moves through the cold water line feeding the heater and hot water leaving thd hested.
Some don’t understand how it all works. They need to know.
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:27 pm to SirSaintly
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I always found it retarded that people build with water heaters in their attic no matter where they live. Why the frick would you put 50-70 gallons of water in your attic?
Probably so the water heater and or closet doesn’t take up living / working space. Hope that helps you understand.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:36 pm to crimsonsaint
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Probably so the water heater and or closet doesn’t take up living / working space. Hope that helps you understand.
>10 sq ft of lost floor space seems like a small price to pay for not positioning a major utility in a location where it has the most potential to destroy your home.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:45 pm to The Third Leg
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>10 sq ft of lost floor space seems like a small price to pay for not positioning a major utility in a location where it has the most potential to destroy your home.
If a water heater is installed correctly above ground it’s going to include a pan and a drain line.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:51 pm to crimsonsaint
Is Texas a state that requires residential fire sprinkler systems?
Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:59 pm to td1
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Is Texas a state that requires residential fire sprinkler systems?
Not from Texas so not certain. Seems odd that any state would require a fire sprinkler system in a single family residence.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:15 pm to td1
Yeah nah man
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:28 pm to crimsonsaint
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If a water heater is installed correctly above ground it’s going to include a pan and a drain line.
A pan and a drain line won’t do shite if a joint fails up there or it freezes and bursts when you’re not home. It’s the worst place you can put a water heater.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 2/18/21 at 6:31 am to doubleb
quote:Do you have your heater on? If so why? Wouldnt your insulated house just stay some magical warm temperature even though it’s been below 20 for 3 days?
If pipes are insulated and installed inside of a homes insulation barrier I would seriously doubt the lines would freeze under normal use.
If pipes are in an exterior wall or attic maybe an industrial strength spray foam insulation would do it but no regular pipe or fiberglass insulation would stop those lines from freezing.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:06 am to crimsonsaint
Water heaters are in attics in the South for energy conservation. Attics are typically the hottest part of the house in the parts of the country where it’s hot for 8 months straight. The heater doesn’t have to work much to maintain 130deg in a 110deg attic.
In the North they’re in the basement.
In the North they’re in the basement.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:07 am to SirSaintly
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I always found it retarded that people build with water heaters in their attic no matter where they live. Why the frick would you put 50-70 gallons of water in your attic?
You should see the genius that setup the water heater at my house. It is in a non climate controlled shed about 20 feet away from the house. At least they ran the lines in the ground.
You have to run the water for about 1 or 2 to get it hot.
It still doesn’t beat a commercial installation I came across. They put 1 1/2 inch hot water lines from a 3/4 inch commercial tank. You have to run the water for at least 30 minutes to an hour to take a hot shower because you have to drain all the cold water in the lines. And then they put the best water efficient shower head which adds to the wait time for hot water.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:16 am to WestLakeOHTiger
I think it's more of an issue of the utilities companies failures more than residential construction.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:24 am to The Third Leg
Just do spray foam with pex and a correct 2 stage ac and you don't have to worry about any of this shite.
Doubt there are changes, but most should be spray foam and have a generator installed along with NG for as many appliances as possible.
Doubt there are changes, but most should be spray foam and have a generator installed along with NG for as many appliances as possible.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:35 am to lsu777
What's more inexplicable is why it's standard to put tiny arse attic doors.
Can't fit a full sheet of plywood for decking after it's enclosed and makes loading/unloading stored items (or replacing water heater/AC components) a huge PIA.
Can't fit a full sheet of plywood for decking after it's enclosed and makes loading/unloading stored items (or replacing water heater/AC components) a huge PIA.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:40 am to crimsonsaint
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If a water heater is installed correctly above ground it’s going to include a pan and a drain line.
Yea but those drain lines clog with spiders, dust, etc and I promise you no one is pouring bleach through it yearly to clear it as they should.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:45 am to lsu777
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Doubt there are changes,
There won't be. This is too rare of an event to change any codes. It'd be like Shreveport adapting to the same hurricane codes South Louisiana has because for the first time in decades a storm (Laura) made it there as a Cat 1.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:51 am to WestLakeOHTiger
I was downvoted to oblivion for suggesting that hot water heaters should not be in the attic.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 7:55 am to WestLakeOHTiger
Texas homes have evolved in construction. If you think they will insulate to a higher level then no, it won't change that much.
Posted on 2/18/21 at 8:57 am to GeauxGutsy
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I was downvoted to oblivion for suggesting that hot water heaters should not be in the attic.
I think many times, the hot water heater is put in the attic to conserve heated square footage in a house. I don't think much consideration is given other than this fact.
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