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Tesla's market valuation = Ford, Honda, GM, FiatChrysler, and Damlier combined

Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:52 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:52 am
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Tesla is now worth a General Motors plus a Honda plus a Ford, plus a Fiat Chrysler and a Daimler. Then you’ve got pretty much what Tesla is now worth.

$183 billion.

Toyota, which used to be the most valuable car brand in the world, is now worth $174 billion according to Yahoo Finance.

Tesla stock has been on a tear since March, when it dropped down to $361 per share. Now it’s been north of the $1,000 line at $1,025 (before dropping slightly on profit-taking) for a total market capitalization that’s now about $10 billion north of Toyota. Toyota stock has been mostly flat for the past year.
Forbes

No question that Tesla is very innovative and they make very compelling products. But are they really worth that much more than Toyota, Honda, GM, and Ford?
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:55 am to
Market cap is a laughable way to measure the value of a company, but whatever.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:56 am to
Buy more 'Merican cars.....like Tesla.

My new Cybertruck is going to be totally awesome. It's going to look like a giant doorstop.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5360 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:01 am to
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But are they really worth that much more than Toyota, Honda, GM, and Ford?




Considering Tesla has had 3 maybe 4 quarters of profit in a 10 year period, the answer is no. Tesla has relied on investors to keep cash flowing in which has worked for them but other manufacturers are beginning to introduce their own vehicles and thats is when Tesla will run into serious problems unless they can develop methods of manufacturing and distribution that can help maintain a competitive advantage.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:04 am to
People are banking on their technological advancements, not in their production capabilities.

Their computing advances are significantly better than every other companies. Basically, they are a tech company pretending to be a car company
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29646 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:07 am to
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Market cap is a laughable way to measure the value of a company, but whatever.



Aside from being a publicly formed consensus on the price of a stake in a company's equity, but whatever. Let us know when you come up with a better way to determine that baw.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
39413 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:07 am to
It's valued like a tech company, not a car company.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11988 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:08 am to
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unless they can develop methods of manufacturing and distribution that can help maintain a competitive advantage.


I personally thought the assembly line under the tent was pushing the human race to a new level of innovation.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:08 am to
I'm only half kidding about the Cybertruck. I am thinking about getting the tri-motor version.
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
9874 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:11 am to
Elon Musk is a fricking genius.

His space stuff is the reason I'm an investor in Tesla.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62227 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:12 am to
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Tesla has relied on investors to keep cash flowing in which has worked for them but other manufacturers are beginning to introduce their own vehicles and thats is when Tesla will run into serious problems unless they can develop methods of manufacturing and distribution that can help maintain a competitive advantage.

I feel like I've heard this over and over for the last 5-6 years.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:14 am to
That sounds like some massive artificial inflation
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
17023 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:15 am to
When is autonomous driving going to happen in LA?
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8625 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:16 am to
It makes no sense.
Posted by Cold Drink
Member since Mar 2016
3482 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:16 am to
Tesla isn’t just a car company do it’s not an apples to apples comparison.

Keep betting against them though
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:17 am to
It's like when they said Uber was worth some ridiculous number like $900 billion
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26628 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:18 am to
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Tesla has relied on investors to keep cash flowing in which has worked for them but other manufacturers are beginning to introduce their own vehicles and thats is when Tesla will run into serious problems unless they can develop methods of manufacturing and distribution that can help maintain a competitive advantage.


They are starting to turn profits in some quarters - and by the time investors start treating them like a normal car company (around the time when VW, Toyota, and GM switch to a majority EV lineup), they'd have multiple plants and a full lineup of popular vehicles.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15408 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:19 am to
I thought I read somewhere that their battery IP is worth just as much as their cars.

I think the notion that they are more than an automaker is accurate and part of the reason for the crazy valuation.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
26166 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:21 am to
They are not held back by decades and decades of Union crap and inflated management.

Tesla can spend so much more money on making a better product.

If Musk can get the million mile battery, oh my.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3351 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:21 am to
I've said it before.. any of the big manufacturers could do what Tesla has done, tech wise. Chevy volt anyone? (It was an ugly POS, but that's not the point). Nissan Leaf? Tesla is just more willing to kill people with beta versions of autopilot than the other manufacturers. I think Tesla will survive/thrive as a luxury electric manufacturer. They are not revolutionary, however. They are still limited by battery technology like everyone else.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 9:23 am
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