re: Tesla Truck, under $50,000 and better than a F150

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I believe that, by law, all of the electrical and drivetrain components are IP65/66 rated or better.

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IP 66 isn’t sufficient for submergence, especially for electrical components. Need 67 at minimum.

you assume a lot.

You don’t see us fully submerging combustion engines either. Shielding the electric motors attached to the rear wheels from splashing is one thing but ensuring that the electric motors can stay fully submerged for extended periods of time, that’s another challenge. Seals and gaskets don’t last forever.

Hell no! That thing is fricking hideous. Worse than a Plymouth Aztek.







Meh. Not really my cup of tea. Looks like one of those Transformer Movie inspired cars like the new Corvette.

I'm not 12.










Now we're talkin. I can live with this. Looks almost like an F-150 from the side.

Are there any more pics, preferably ones with the hood closed?

And that big Tesla die cut in the front has to go. Probably just there for concept PR. Will likely be deleted in production.

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Point is it's just silly to think that Tesla's engineers will design a pickup truck that will fail the first time you back a boat down the ramp.

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I mean there was a rash of incidents where bumpers were falling off of model 3’s in the rain.

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I did no such thing. Please feel free to quote me where I admitted to a clear bias against Musk.

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"I cannot wait for Tesla to be a thing of the past."

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This is futile, but do you see how those two things are not the same? I have no bias against Musk. I have bias against Tesla for its very flawed business model and the fact that 100% of its product line is eligible for gov't tax credit subsidy.

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Yea, that was easy. You seem to lack self awareness as you walked yourself right into that one.

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No, but it's abundantly clear to me that you have reading comprehension issues that run near as deep as your devotion to Tesla.

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Right, while you admitted you never said the same about the GMs of the world and all the bailouts they've gotten. But hey, no bias on your part, right? You can't wait for Tesla to be a thing of the past and hate them for sucking off the government tweet, but you admitted never saying the same about other automakers...just a coincidence that you've only said that about Tesla and definitely not because of your bias, right?

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And I've been critical of them, too. Do you choose to ignore my previous statement when I said no failing company should be saved by the taxpayers? I am not a fan of the gov't buyout and I am not a fan of EV tax credits just the same. If GM and/or Tesla cannot handle their shite, then they deserve the same fate.

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There's nothing to accept. You're just biased against them very clearly, you even essentially admitted it, I just don't think you realize you did.

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I do realize it because I've stated it very clearly: I am critical of Tesla because 100% of every product it sells is eligible for gov't tax credit. That's not a sustainable business model, and if Tesla depends on it, I will celebrate the day it goes away.

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Hey, look up above. Remember when I said you admitted your clear bias, and you said you did no such thing, then you just admitted it yet again without realizing it?

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Read my first statement in this post. You've missed the mark...again. Not surprised. I'm not surprised at all.

Please explain to the board why the taxpayers should afford YOU a tax credit on YOUR private vehicle. Please explain why 100% of a company's product offering should be gov't subsidized. Since you've mentioned GM, what percentage of total GM vehicles sold in the US get the EV tax credit, as compared to 100% of Tesla's? I'll wait for your answers, but I'm certain you'll answer none of them sufficiently, or honestly.

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I can’t wait til some ol baw hooks up his Cummins 3500 to that little thing for a bumper pull contest and pulls that little shitcan into a couple different pieces.

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Tesla already makes a sedan that has more torque than those big pickup trucks. Weight and body strength will be factors, though.

My truck has a towing capacity of 9,800lbs but I wouldn't feel comfortable at all towing something that big unless it was a short, flat drive. I'll be curious to see how well the Tesla pickups tow 28' campers and boats over hilly terrain.

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I cannot wait for Tesla to be a thing of the past

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You're going to be waiting a loooooooong time, you do realize that, right?

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specific indictment of Tesla living off the Gov't teet

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Oh, like every other car company selling EVs has gotten, but ONLY Tesla gets the hate for it.

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Remind me of the quote,



Tesla gets ridiculed because they dare to be brave and put their dreams to reality. They pushed the industry in a direction they resisted for years. Now every auto manufacturer makes an electric vehicle. Auto industry dabbled in it before but they never stuck it out. GM had an EV back in 1990.

In the 2000s, during all the environmental outrage and high gas prices, they played with hybrids.

It wasn't until Tesla really started to gain ground that you see respected auto manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, Volvo, Etc making legitimate, full size, all electric luxury vehicles.

They didn't want to invest but it always takes dreamers and impractical innovators like Musk to say, "frick this, we're doing it!"

I figured you macho baws would respect such moxie.

So.

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If I wasn't so concerned about the long-term viability, product support, parts availability, etc, of Tesla's

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Sounds to me like you agree with the other guy.

It looks like a dinosaur