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re: Tesla burns through $480,000 every hour but has a higher market cap than Ford

Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:26 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78064 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:26 am to
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"Who cares because of technology and shite." - Musk fanboys
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7653 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:27 am to
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I bet 70%+ of that is from salaries. Might be time to trim the fat!


Except in the tech industry, he is notorious for underpaying and overworking his engineers in both Tesla and SpaceX. Specifically, he pressures them to work crazy hours, with tight deadlines on very difficult projects. All while giving them terrible benefits, and salaries that are well below industry standard.

A LOT of engineers work there as a passion project, because they believe in green energy/space exploration, and see him as the best way to create the future they want to see.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89523 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 10:31 am to
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Well yea, so does that mean Lamborghin and Ferrari should scrap their current business model and start selling $20k cars?


Are they losing $8k per minute?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25348 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 3:57 pm to
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Except in the tech industry, he is notorious for underpaying and overworking his engineers in both Tesla and SpaceX.


Is that why EVERY Tesla product missed their release deadline by at least 18 months?
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4721 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 4:15 pm to
Prudent business decisions aren’t required when the govt is funding you.
Posted by pongze
IE, SoCal
Member since Nov 2007
1713 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 4:32 pm to
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You can buy a $30,000 Chevrolet with a 250 mile range....right now. Next year you'll be able to do the same with a Nissan Leaf. The year after there will be 3 more competitors from Toyota, Honda, and Mazda.

It's not 2011 anymore


The difference is the tesla supercharger network. That makes a tesla a viable option for cross country travel that no other automaker can compete with in the electric vehicle market, for the near future
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21587 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 4:36 pm to
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Tesla is one of the only exceptions I can agree with when it comes to the Government giving companies big subsidies. I think that this technology is necessary to advance humanity


I don't think Tesla is leading the marketplace with respect to electric car technologies (anymore) even though they're government backed.

Give Toyota a few years and watch the numbers (range and charge time) their solid state batteries will throw out.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:14 pm to
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Is it possible for you to hear any criticism of Tesla without going full retard?
You didn't disagree with what I said.

I've also acknowledged and agreed with Tesla criticisms before, you just chose to ignore those posts.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:15 pm to
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Are they losing $8k per minute?
Probably not but that's not relevant to my post and what I quoted.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:17 pm to
Elon Musk's SpaceX is the primary assistant to North Korea's nuke program as well, but people want to slobber on Elon's nuts all day for some reason.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:19 pm to
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Elon Musk's SpaceX is the primary assistant to North Korea's nuke program as well,
Wait, what?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:47 pm to
a car that runs on money?

seems like that wouldn't be attractive
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12881 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 5:55 pm to
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Wait, what?

He said Elon Musk's SpaceX is the primary assistant to North Korea's nuke program as well.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:02 pm to
Today, I saw that an analyst at JP Morgan predicted that Tesla shares will drop 40% in the next 12 months. Advises shorting it.

Opinions and a holes, I guess,
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:03 pm to
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He said Elon Musk's SpaceX is the primary assistant to North Korea's nuke program as well.

And then I said, "wait what?"
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110837 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:05 pm to
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Today, I saw that an analyst at JP Morgan predicted that Tesla shares will drop 40% in the next 12 months. Advises shorting it.

Opinions and a holes, I guess,
Wouldn't be surprising
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89523 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:07 pm to
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Probably not but that's not relevant to my post and what I quoted.


How so? Instead of getting the 3 to market, Musk is diverting energy and resources to a very low volume roadster (prestige product, will never make any significant money) and a commercial truck that is YEARS away from the market.

If he'd diverted all those resources to getting the lines fixed for 3s, he'd had a high volume car in the market and it would be making money in 2018 and 2019.

So, my point was, we wouldn't ask small, boutique, profitable low volume sports cars to change their business model if that's who they were, what they did and they're not losing $8k per minute.

Musk's investors and creditors - on the other hand - might be justified in saying, "Make some money - stop grandstanding and burning through money like an heiress."

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:07 pm to
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Today, I saw that an analyst at JP Morgan predicted that Tesla shares will drop 40% in the next 12 months. Advises shorting it.



40% os steep, but theres no way they can keep this going forever without producing anything. The tricky part is going to be when people finally give up on Musk because that's the only thing driving the stock price.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52974 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 7:09 pm to
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The difference is the tesla supercharger network. That makes a tesla a viable option for cross country travel that no other automaker can compete with in the electric vehicle market, for the near future



yeah they have a charger behind acme oyster house
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