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re: Terrorist attack in Paris; shooting/grenades at bar & soccer stadium
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP, are these verses in the post Christ scripture? Please, inform me. I'm ill-educated.
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Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:15 pm to GhostofJackson
So this thread just took a big religious shite
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And the Mongols
Too bad they didn't finish the job.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:16 pm to Brown Mountain
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So this thread just took a big religious shite
again
i'll re-port Gad Saad's quote from tonight
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People yawn with apathy and cowardly silence whilst innumerable human beings are butchered on a daily basis. The solutions are as clear as the existence of gravity. And yet, people refuse to acknowledge the problem lest they might be sent to PC jail. I have been warning people for well over a decade. You might "escape" the reality but your children and grandchildren won't...
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:16 pm to Brown Mountain
For real can we take the religious discussion somewhere else and talk about the fact that Frances presidents pretty much just declared war on ISIS.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
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it's only since the Enlightenment of about 500 years ago that Christianity progressed, and that was because western values were established, developed, and promoted which raised our standard of living to a point where Christian doctrine developed in kind.
Wtf. Western values were only established 500 years ago?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
They do not want to live with us. They want us to convert or die. There is no learning to get along with these types of people. They don't believe in "you stay on your side and I will stay on mine". They want all sides and they will kill to achieve that. I don't know what the answer is.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:17 pm to WestCoastAg
Does this ever lead to mass exportation of all Islamic believers from a country?
I'm starting to think that extreme tactics such as this will begin to be considered.
I'm starting to think that extreme tactics such as this will begin to be considered.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:17 pm to SabiDojo
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I agree. It won't be guns. It will be WalMart, the internet, consumerism. Freedom is natural. It just takes other cultures longer.
Easier to convert less of them than more of them...just saying.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm currently reading "Fields of Blood: history of violence" by Karen Armstrong.... Anyone interested in exactly what's going on currently with this fluid situation should pick it up. I checked it out from the library earlier this week.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:18 pm to Rayburn8
Clearly not you apathetic coward
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:18 pm to GhostofJackson
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Western values were only established 500 years ago?
well there are seeds from other eras, but basically
the concept of personal property and property rights developed around that time, which is the foundation of Western values
add in some scientific method and the social contract of society that's basically the 3 pillars of western thought
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:18 pm to Swm323
I used to be very cautious about all Muslims, I really didn't care to distinguish. Then I got a onsulting contract in Istanbul and I have met the nicest people there. So maybe it's more an Arab thing not a Muslim thing?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:20 pm to Brown Mountain
Stache dude? You mean Giraldo Rivera?
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:20 pm to gaetti15
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French President Hollande: "We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless."
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:20 pm to Eurocat
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So maybe it's more an Arab thing not a Muslim thing?
i think this is a big part of it. persian/arab culture was shite and it just so happens that they were the early adopters of islam
but if you look at islam across the world through western eyes, there are very good even "decent" countries that are dominated by muslims
bosnia is basically the best and it's nothing to write home about
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:21 pm to SuperSaint
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:22 pm to PsychTiger
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nor should we. This is a problem for france, and England, and germany. Not us
And the lessons of WWII are so quickly forgotten
I understand your sentiment, but ISIS and pre-WWII Germany are polar opposites.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:22 pm to aVatiger
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I love how this is now a religion thread.
Some people have a soft spot for islam. They'll drag everything else into the conversation to make it seem more sane.
Most Muslims are probably culturally Muslim, not fanatics. But, the fanatics are unparalleled in the religious world.
Posted on 11/13/15 at 8:22 pm to Eurocat
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Then I got a onsulting contract in Istanbul and I have met the nicest people there.
Turkey is very secular.
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