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re: Terrorist Attack in London - UPDATE ISIS claims responsibility
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:27 pm to LesMiles BFF
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:27 pm to LesMiles BFF
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But I digress... the point I was making was that if you hear of a mass shooting happening in America then you are just as likely to find out a white dude did it as you are to find out a Muslim did it.
Well you had the black dudes that killed all those cops but no biggie. I'll let you get back to building your strawman showing how white Americans are just as terroristic as Muslims.
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:27 pm to BOSCEAUX
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I was trying to be diplomatic since this is the OT
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:28 pm to Pettifogger
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I think terrorism can involve attempted injury to one person. But there has to be a political, religious, or ideological motive that is intended to impact more than just the perpetrator and victim.
I don't know the exact definition but I would consider bombing federal buildings, voting booths, and the like to be terrorist attacks even if they neither intend to injure nor actually injure.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:28 pm to cas4t
quote:How did we create it?
I personally think it's a bit fricked for us to essentially create this mess and then turn away innocent people who are trying to escape the mess we created.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:28 pm to J Murdah
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:28 pm to J Murdah
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Sounds like a disgruntled muslim, not a coordinated and timely attack.
You don't think one off ideologue attacks are terrorist attacks?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:29 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Well by definition "terrorist" classify themselves based on some identifying factor so our TV driven culture makes it easy to target those specific groups. It also allows political opportunist to create boogie men (it's not like these groups don't deserve to be called out), and sidestep issues that are just as important but not as tangible (e.g. Mental health)
But I digress... the point I was making was that if you hear of a mass shooting happening in America then you are just as likely to find out a white dude did it as you are to find out a Muslim did it.
And if you take into account the fact that there are about 200 million Caucasian people in the U.S. and about 3 million Muslims, then those per capita numbers don't come out looking so hot.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:30 pm to J Murdah
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Sounds like a disgruntled muslim, not a coordinated and timely attack.
Lone Wolf. Nothing to see here. Muslims dindu nuthin. Right??
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:30 pm to The Mick
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How did we create it?
rhetorical? I hope..I don't feel like going there today tbh.
long story short- went in when we shouldn't have, left before we should have.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:30 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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Does motivation not matter?
If I'm dead? Nah
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Better get rid of hate crime laws then.
Idk why you would bring this up unless you think I agree with the concept of a "hate crime", but I actually do believe the label "hate crime" do be a bit rediculous because I'm a pragmatist. I'm just as dead no matter your motivations.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm to cas4t
quote:You already went there, read your previous post.
I don't feel like going there today tbh.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm to SabiDojo
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I don't know the exact definition but I would consider bombing federal buildings, voting booths, and the like to be terrorist attacks even if they neither intend to injure nor actually injure.
I agree. Property damage attacks (or even symbolic attacks - cross burning) seem pretty tame these days, but any action with the intention to intimidate based on some ideological motive works for me.
Of course, SJWs will tell us that Trump written in sidewalk chalk qualifies.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Does motivation not matter?
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If I'm dead? Nah
It may not matter to a dead person, but it's definitely going to matter to the people who aren't dead.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm to AbuTheMonkey
frick...they said there are at least two children that were visiting from France (I believe they said France) that were injured as well. And a woman rescued from the Thames that was somehow tossed from the bridge. (maybe she jumped to avoid being mowed down)
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:31 pm to The Mick
well I edited, just for you.
not to mention it's a topic discussed ad nauseam. I'd like to think most agree that the US created ISIS.
not to mention it's a topic discussed ad nauseam. I'd like to think most agree that the US created ISIS.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:32 pm to BOSCEAUX
Titus, here is the "straw man" right on cue 
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:32 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Does motivation not matter?
If I'm dead? Nah
And to those trying to figure out why something happened and to attempt to prevent it from happening again in the future?
Yea, motivation is damn important.
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Better get rid of hate crime laws then.
Idk why you would bring this up unless you think I agree with the concept of a "hate crime", but I actually do believe the label "hate crime" do be a bit rediculous because I'm a pragmatist. I'm just as dead no matter your motivations.
Got it. At least you're consistent.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:33 pm to cas4t
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long story short- went in when we shouldn't have, left before we should have.
It really goes back to WWI and the Sykes-Picot Agreement.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:33 pm to TigerstuckinMS
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:33 pm to cas4t
quote:I agree with both of these, but terrorism didn't find it's origins once we went in. We may have poked the bee's nest a bit but the bees were swarming regardless.
long story short- went in when we shouldn't have, left before we should have.
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