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re: Terrorist Attack in London - UPDATE ISIS claims responsibility
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:55 am to LesMiles BFF
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:55 am to LesMiles BFF
cajunangelle is someone who looks for dramatic, unsubstantiated news and post it in big bold caps like ihometiger.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:55 am to BOSCEAUX
It's the easiest way to inflict mass casualties.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:56 am to LesMiles BFF
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Not in America. They're usually white, but you are correct that because this was in Britain it probably was a Muslim(s) responsible.
I was talking world wide but in the past 5 years I think that holds true for America also.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:56 am to BOSCEAUX
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The whole using vehicles to just mow people down worries me more than terrorist with bombs or guns. It's just so damn easy and can happen in a instant.
We thought about it a lot when in Europe over the holidays. Blocking off the Christmas Markets and the like is easy enough, but there is just no way to barricade off most of the heavy pedestrian areas in major European cities. Even smaller cities provide ample possible targets if you're just looking for carnage.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:59 am to Pettifogger
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Eh, most of the large scale notable attacks are committed by Muslims. The list of white terror incidents usually includes "two people who posted on a racist message board killed a cop" or "sovereign citizen shoots gu
Colorado theater shooting
Sandyhook
Church basement in Carolina
Even the local one in Lafayette where he only managed to kill 2 people(thank the lord) was committed by a white guy.
So if you think about it I'd say white guys edge out Muslims by a hair, but you wouldn't know it based on TV and our politicians.
Would be interesting to get numbers but I doubt crimes are classified sufficiently to be accurate for what I would like to know
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:04 pm to cas4t
Picture of the suspect from Twitter
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:05 pm to LesMiles BFF
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Colorado theater shooting
Not terrorism, any ideological motive is a HUGE stretch
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Sandyhook
Not even close to terrorism, no ideological basis at all
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Church basement in Carolina
This is actually terrorism, it was white supremacist based
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Even the local one in Lafayette where he only managed to kill 2 people(thank the lord) was committed by a white guy.
I know of this one but don't remember the back story.
If you want to talk about mass violence, you're probably right. But most of these incidents aren't terrorism.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:06 pm to Pettifogger
I love it when you post.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:09 pm to LesMiles BFF
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So if you think about it I'd say white guys edge out Muslims by a hair, but you wouldn't know it based on TV and our politicians
Maybe I missed part of the conversation but notable terrorist attacks commited by whites doesn't even hold a candle to Muslim led attacks.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:10 pm to LesMiles BFF
Boston bombing
Orlando
California
Ft Hood
Tennessee
That mall
Everything you listed is technically terrorism but can also fall under spree killings because the acts weren't committed over an ideology. Now some wing nut blowing up an abortion clinic is terrorism in my book.
I think Muslims are ahead in body count on American soil.
Orlando
California
Ft Hood
Tennessee
That mall
Everything you listed is technically terrorism but can also fall under spree killings because the acts weren't committed over an ideology. Now some wing nut blowing up an abortion clinic is terrorism in my book.
I think Muslims are ahead in body count on American soil.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:11 pm to BOSCEAUX
There was that whole 9/11 thing too
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:12 pm to Pettifogger
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quote: Even the local one in Lafayette where he only managed to kill 2 people(thank the lord) was committed by a white guy.
I think it was over a woman or something. It wasn't ideological.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:13 pm to AHM21
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Look, we all pretty much know when these things happen it's a radical Muslim. Most liberals I know agree with that. That's not the argument for borders. Their argument is mostly that
A- it wasn't like Obama was just letting them come in droves. The screening of select countries has been occurring for a long time and is rigorous. It takes months to years for the most part for people from middle eastern countries to get here, and usually the entire family can not come.
B- the liberal argument is that not every immigrant and Muslim is a terrorist. Which is true. And we screen the shite out of them. Which is why most domestic attacks by Muslims have been from US citizens who were basically proxy radicalized.
Just saying. I don't know many liberals, myself included I guess, who want to just let everyone in without screening. That's a bit hyperbolic from some of y'all.
Look, we all pretty much know when these things happen it's a radical Muslim. Most liberals I know agree with that. That's not the argument for borders. Their argument is mostly that
A- it wasn't like Obama was just letting them come in droves. The screening of select countries has been occurring for a long time and is rigorous. It takes months to years for the most part for people from middle eastern countries to get here, and usually the entire family can not come.
B- the liberal argument is that not every immigrant and Muslim is a terrorist. Which is true. And we screen the shite out of them. Which is why most domestic attacks by Muslims have been from US citizens who were basically proxy radicalized.
Just saying. I don't know many liberals, myself included I guess, who want to just let everyone in without screening. That's a bit hyperbolic from some of y'all.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:13 pm to Pettifogger
You're right. I am more concerned with mass violence rather than the motivation behind the mass violence.
The classification of the act after the fact doesn't concern me if I am a victim.
The classification of the act after the fact doesn't concern me if I am a victim.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:13 pm to Pettifogger
Yep. Carolina was terrorism.
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