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re: Terrorist Attack in London - UPDATE ISIS claims responsibility

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Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:35 pm to
help to cause or bring about.


have an influence on.

they are nearly interchangeable. Again, you're being ridiculous.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:35 pm to
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No it's not semantics. All of those words have completely different meanings. Influence is entirely different from contribution or creation. Your word choice is appalling.





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You're just trying to cover your arse


It seems to me that's what you're trying to do.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:35 pm to
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You and Sabi then used the word contribute. Don't act like you've been saying influence this entire time. All of those words have completely different meanings.


Surely you aren't serious
Posted by Prosecuted Collins
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:38 pm to
Three triple murders in a month in NOLA. Call me when the Brits get woke.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

help to cause or bring about.


have an influence on.

they are nearly interchangeable. Again, you're being ridiculous.


Wow.

Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:41 pm to
I don't have to cover my arse. The facts are out there. I can't help what lens you choose to look at them through.

The US heavily influenced and/or contributed to the creation of ISIS.

And if you call someone a bitch to their face, you do share some of the blame when you get punched in the face.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:42 pm to
He's clearly either trying to cover his arse or he was trolling all along

No way he actually believes that contribute and influence have completely different meanings in this context
Posted by LesMiles BFF
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:42 pm to
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The Mick


At least be intellectually honest with yourself and admit that Obama never accused Trump of collaborating with the Russians.


Jesus, between this discussion and the discussion of word meaning with the other guys, this thread is fricked.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:43 pm to
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SabiDojo
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:45 pm to
don't give up just yet. More people are just now showing up. Let's keep going. Please, elaborate as to how having an influence on creating ISIS is so vastly different than contributing to the creation of ISIS.

And please, for the love of God, omit the Ethics 101 day 1 lecture on human choice that everyone on this board is well aware of.

And while you're at it, answer my question as to how and why ISIS was created, since you seem to believe you have the answers. Specifics please.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:46 pm to
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And if you call someone a bitch to their face, you do share some of the blame when you get punched in the face.


This is the crux of the entire debate and where we have a fundemental disagreement instead of arguing over word choice.

I firmly believe that action and influence have no moral equivalency. If a person insults you and you hit them, there is no blame on the person who insulted you to me. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. Action is the only thing I care about. I don't care about who influenced you to do anything. I care about what you do with that influence.

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And while you're at it, answer my question as to how and why ISIS was created


Extremist Sunnis in Iraq and Syria (and elsewhere) were feeling (and have always felt) oppressed and decided to create a religious caliphate. It's the same shite different day in the Middle East. It's a conflict that goes back hundreds of years.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:46 pm to
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Jesus, between this discussion and the discussion of word meaning with the other guys, this thread is fricked.



sorry yo. I promise I didn't want it to go there.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:48 pm to
Don't start no shite won't be no shite.


quote:

No way he actually believes that contribute and influence have completely different meanings in this context


They have completely different meanings regardless of the context.

ETA: it's not my fault that you guys don't know the difference between influence and contribute.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:52 pm to
Rum Unloader
Posted by rmnldr
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:53 pm to
Having fun?
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:54 pm to


(not aimed at you but you're the last reply ITT...)

There is a thread on the PT whining about London hashtags. Seriously, the milquetoast Trumpkakke PT is triggered about hashtags during an event.

For the OT ('cuz I'm banned on the PT) if you saw #PrayForBRPD or #PrayForNOLA #Katrina, would you be triggered?

Is empathy and/or a lack of awareness the world is a large place totally extinct?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:54 pm to
Room In Leder?(hosen)
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
40399 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:55 pm to
I like that one

Very creative
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 2:56 pm to
Ram an ol' dear

Or Rim
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 2:59 pm
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