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re: Teen Rehab Centers
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:00 pm to lepdagod
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:00 pm to lepdagod
What general area do you live in?
You are almost certainly going to want to consult with a Mental Health Professional. Teen programs in LA are almost non existent and even the best (most expensive) programs out of state do not have the highest success rates.
I’d recommend immediately starting marriage counseling because this is a long road that puts a serious strain on a marriage. You also need to get help yourself so you can stay present with your other kids. If you have other kids this is impacting them significantly as well. Getting involved with a church or other community can be helpful. Look up AL-Anon groups in your area.
I am going to be brutally honest to let you know that you have very little control over how this ends up for him. If he’s seriously abusing those types of drugs then it will take everything in his will power to make a change. The best role you can take on for him is as a consultant/counselor and someone who models healthy behaviors.
Having said that, I’ve seen YCP work before and a MHP that I trust recommends The Carpenter Shed in Monroe.
You are almost certainly going to want to consult with a Mental Health Professional. Teen programs in LA are almost non existent and even the best (most expensive) programs out of state do not have the highest success rates.
I’d recommend immediately starting marriage counseling because this is a long road that puts a serious strain on a marriage. You also need to get help yourself so you can stay present with your other kids. If you have other kids this is impacting them significantly as well. Getting involved with a church or other community can be helpful. Look up AL-Anon groups in your area.
I am going to be brutally honest to let you know that you have very little control over how this ends up for him. If he’s seriously abusing those types of drugs then it will take everything in his will power to make a change. The best role you can take on for him is as a consultant/counselor and someone who models healthy behaviors.
Having said that, I’ve seen YCP work before and a MHP that I trust recommends The Carpenter Shed in Monroe.
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Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:02 pm to adavis
He will need support from friends and family, and if there is a reason he feels he needs to constantly numb his pain (emotional/physical), I hope he would open up about why.
It is hard being a kid these days with all of the social media. I would not have felt as good growing up in today's world.
If he wants to have a future, he needs to get off of drugs. Or, if he is really ADHD or depressed, then being on the proper therapy would be helpful to him, but doctors will not prescribe him drugs like Adderall if he has a history of addiction. He needs to know that. With that said, I would do everything in my power to get him to stop without going through the health record, but if it is past that point, then it is what it is. Substance abuse disorder is an official diagnosis you do not want to have in your past medical history.
It is hard being a kid these days with all of the social media. I would not have felt as good growing up in today's world.
If he wants to have a future, he needs to get off of drugs. Or, if he is really ADHD or depressed, then being on the proper therapy would be helpful to him, but doctors will not prescribe him drugs like Adderall if he has a history of addiction. He needs to know that. With that said, I would do everything in my power to get him to stop without going through the health record, but if it is past that point, then it is what it is. Substance abuse disorder is an official diagnosis you do not want to have in your past medical history.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:03 pm to DavidTheGnome
quote:you’re forgetting that this is a 16yo not a 26yo that’s completely entrenched.
Honestly I doubt it would help. Until he’s ready to stop it’s pretty useless.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:04 pm to adavis
quote:pics by chance?
and my wife-
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:04 pm to adavis
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Does anyone know the process for getting him involuntarily committed?
The coroner of each parish handles commitments. He doesn’t need a “ youth challenge program”. He needs to be willing to commit to a Twelve Step program with a good sponsor.
Hopefully he would stick long enough for it to take. Very huge challenge.
If only he could see and understand the joys of life that would be before him if he was sober. He will only learn this from a recovering alcoholic or addict. Not from a bunch of using peers.
You have a big challenge. I’m going to make some calls as for resources that could be available.
God bless y’all. I love y’all and most importantly He does too.
This post was edited on 7/2/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:07 pm to adavis
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1. Does anyone know the process for getting him involuntarily committed?
Contact a social worker
The coroner or the sheriff can force him
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:07 pm to lepdagod
quote:absolutely don’t do this…. He is 16yo, he won’t be sitting in whatever parish. He will go to a juvenile faculty which is 1000x worse. You want to turn a teen into a complete degenerate? Send him to a Louisiana juvenile facility and you. Trust me.
This sounds harsh… but if he gets picked up by the police for it… let him sit in the Parish a couple months ..
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:08 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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where do you people come from that you think rural Montana isn’t full of pills? :rotflmao;
To me this approach has always sounded like it's more about breaking down the barriers for parents than the kid.
I saw an interview years ago with a mom whose son committed suicide, and she was talking about all the things she would have done to get more time - "I'd have sold everything we have and moved to a remote island with you just the two of us" etc. - really stuck with me well before I had kids, and that was probably a lost cause for her anyway ultimately because of his severe depression.
But to me the concept is if your kid's life is in danger, and it is, the paradigm of figuring out how to get help within the constraints of jobs, home, family and whatever probably needs to go out the window and absolutely everything needs to be on the table (Montana or otherwise). It's essentially "you can just do things" but for parents of at-risk kids.
OP, I hope you find the right move for you and your family - it's already apparent you're willing to put your pride aside and that strikes me as a strong start.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:10 pm to adavis
can i ask a question and im not criticizing.... how does a 16 year get to that point if the parents are really involved?
i have boys a little younger so im asking more out of things to look out for so its a genuine question.....like how does it get to that point? are you allowing him to have free reign all the time without know where he is and to hang out with who ever he wants?
and once you knew he was using....how are you letting him out the house to continue that?
i seriously dont understand how it could happen at 15/16.
if you said 19 or 20 when they moved out...sure. if you said single parent who works a lot...sure.
i have boys a little younger so im asking more out of things to look out for so its a genuine question.....like how does it get to that point? are you allowing him to have free reign all the time without know where he is and to hang out with who ever he wants?
and once you knew he was using....how are you letting him out the house to continue that?
i seriously dont understand how it could happen at 15/16.
if you said 19 or 20 when they moved out...sure. if you said single parent who works a lot...sure.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:10 pm to adavis
He's playing with his life and it's only a matter of time before he gets fentanyl thinking it's something else that he is buying.
Parents definitely need to go to Alanon. It's a great support and has lots of people who have walked in your shoes. You don't have to talk, just listen. Parents should also do therapy, lots to learn about addiction and how to stay as healthy as possible in the process.
Set limits with his arse. Take away everything and let him earn it back with sobriety. You can also tie in additional help as a consequence for relapses. Addicts have to have structure. Don't worry about hurting his feelings. If you continue to let him win then you are helping him kill himself eventually. I've been there with a child who is an addict. It's a bitch and it can completely wreck a family.
Parents definitely need to go to Alanon. It's a great support and has lots of people who have walked in your shoes. You don't have to talk, just listen. Parents should also do therapy, lots to learn about addiction and how to stay as healthy as possible in the process.
Set limits with his arse. Take away everything and let him earn it back with sobriety. You can also tie in additional help as a consequence for relapses. Addicts have to have structure. Don't worry about hurting his feelings. If you continue to let him win then you are helping him kill himself eventually. I've been there with a child who is an addict. It's a bitch and it can completely wreck a family.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:11 pm to Shexter
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You have the dealer's phone number. Turn his arse in to the cops.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:12 pm to adavis
I got you.
Send me an email at therant2003 at gmail
Send me an email at therant2003 at gmail
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:14 pm to profdillweed
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Contact a social worker The coroner or the sheriff can force him
I think it needs to be understood what “forcing” means. Having the police come in your home and literally force him to go to be hospitalized pretty traumatic experience and maybe not the best way to kick off his road to sobriety.
I’d keep that on the table as the very last option.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:14 pm to profdillweed
I’ve looked for ways to blame myself and tried to be a “better parent.” There are very few things we did wrong. My wife and I have been together for 20 years and married for 18. He has never seen addiction, violence, or anything but happiness from us. We have never left his side for even a brief moment. He has never done without, but he hasn’t been spoiled. So if we made mistakes as parents, it was simple things.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:14 pm to adavis
If you have the money, send him to Springfield Wellness for NAD treatment and therapy to get his body right from the drugs. It’s a roughly two week program and will run you over $1k/day. From there, they will recommend a rehab program.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:15 pm to hall59tiger
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I think it needs to be understood what “forcing” means. Having the police come in your home and literally force him to go to be hospitalized pretty traumatic experience and maybe not the best way to kick off his road to sobriety. I’d keep that on the table as the very last option.
I was just suggesting that it is an option.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:16 pm to junkfunky
Working with insurance now, but we can’t get any of these places to call us back. I know we’ll have to come out of pocket some, but I’d like to send him somewhere our insurance will pick up part of the bill.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:17 pm to lsu777
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ow does a 16 year get to that point if the parents are really involved?
it is pretty damn easy to get anything at that age. My pet theory is we made kids entirely too comfortable with prescription meds with adderall and what not at young age.
pharma drugs like xanax or oxy don't have the same stigma as doing heroin
xanax basically just makes you chill when taken without booze. With booze you black out. Act like an a-hole and then take a xanax the next day to wash away the hangover and any anxiety you may have about your actions when you were blacked out.
Both are addicting and easy to come by, at least xanax now. I assume oxy is much harder to get than it was 10 years ago when perdue was handing them out.
It is also really easy to hide from people. Small pill. you can take it and kinda function. Don't smell like weed, etc
The withdraws from it suck so bad because your anxiety comes crashing back into you all at once. The physical withdraws are pretty rough too and can kill you.
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:17 pm to adavis
Posted on 7/2/25 at 2:18 pm to lsu777
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can i ask a question and im not criticizing.... how does a 16 year get to that point if the parents are really involved?
The best thing you can do for your kids, by far, is have a good marriage. Working through your own emotions is also helpful. Look up books/videos on Acceptance and Commitment therapy. It’s probably the best therapy for someone who wants to DIY.
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