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re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana

Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:43 pm to
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They don't listen, but it's because you disqualify yourself from being taken seriously by saying stupid shite like that


Yes, many school boards want to hear from their teachers and them complaining about the low wage vs what they are asked to do. If you don't think what happened in Abbeville then you are mistaken. I've been in plenty of school board meetings where teachers address raises to the central office and they're ignored.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:43 pm to

I think what he is inferring is when a contingent of teachers finally have the guts to show their face in an SB forum and voice opinion, en masse. While it's not 100% certain they will be told to stand down, when they are and they don't, speakers have been known to be detained and removed. That's all he saying.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:44 pm to


Yes sure
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:45 pm to
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Mingo Was His NameO

coming from the guy who has never taught but has plenty of opinions on teachers because he knows a teacher one who appears to be an ESL teacher as well, makes it comical in my opinion honestly
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:46 pm to
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Then educate the community and vote for better board members.


Most of these community members voted to make America a great again but can't fathom that educating their kids is what will accomplish that. Truth is education has become another avenue for private companies to suck away tax dollars and the educaters and kids are left to fend for themselves and then be classified as low performing and in need of School choice which means private charters that suck more tax dollars from the neediness kids.
Posted by TexasTiger08
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:47 pm to
Teaching salaries in Louisiana are a joke. The bang for the buck is better over here, even in South Texas. I teach a class that doesn’t require much paperwork, and I’ve become efficient at the stuff that I need to have posted. I find myself less willing to volunteer for uncompensated time.

The profession is what you put into it. Society complains about how poorly educated today’s youth is, and how the behavior of teachers is poor. It’s simple, pay more and quit certifying people like they’re in an express lane.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:48 pm to
The way things are going Private Schools and Charter Schools will be the future, students that can't comply with either will be left in the dirt.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:49 pm to
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People act like this is the easiest thing possible. Just look at the OT, they hate teachers and many other individuals feel that teachers are overpaid, baby-sitters. Yet they complain about public schools, they complain about quality teachers, they complain about quality schools..... they want one thing and complain about something else


The only way raising pay raises the quality of teachers is if we fire all the ones currently employed.

Is that what you are advocating?

Posted by momentoftruth87
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:50 pm to
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Most of these community members voted to make America a great again but can't fathom that educating their kids is what will accomplish that. Truth is education has become another avenue for private companies to suck away tax dollars and the educaters and kids are left to fend for themselves and then be classified as low performing and in need of School choice which means private charters that suck more tax dollars from the neediness kids.


This can open a huge debate. I personally think it's ignorant with the technology we have that we still teach like we did back in the day. We fill these kids heads with so much shite that can easily be googled in a matter of seconds. We aren't progressing with technology in the classroom. Again, this will open a huge argument, but it's true. Why do we learn about things when textbooks are outdated within 4 years time? God I could ask so much more with this but it's late and hate to reply back to everything lol.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:51 pm to
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The only way raising pay raises the quality of teachers is if we fire all the ones currently employed.

Is that what you are advocating?


Yes fire every teacher...... a profession already lacking in Louisiana which is why pretty much every Parish has long-term subs in critical areas. Makes sense to me
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:51 pm to
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coming from the guy who has never taught but has plenty of opinions on teachers because he knows a teacher


I only have an opinion on you and it's that you are being whiny as shite. There are plenty of fine teachers that plug along do the best with what they can and try to seize opportunities like everyone else.

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one who appears to be an ESL teacher as well, makes it comical in my opinion honestly


Not sure what that has to do with anything. She teaches school just like you do. In fact, it's probably harder because she has to to contend with a language barrier.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:53 pm to
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we have that we still teach like we did back in the day.
We don't, teachers are required to use technology


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We fill these kids heads with so much shite that can easily be googled in a matter of seconds
because Google teaches critical thinking

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We aren't progressing with technology in the classroom
Yet every district requires it, the issue is that many can't afford it.

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Why do we learn about things when textbooks are outdated within 4 years time?
Many schools no longer use textbooks outside of Math

Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:53 pm to
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The only way raising pay raises the quality of teachers is if we fire all the ones currently employed. Is that what you are advocating?


I love this argument. Teachers will concede that the education system is subpar. Their suggestion for improving it is to pay the employees who are producing a subpar product MORE money?? Try going to your private sector boss and saying “I know my product hasn’t been good, but I think I’d do better if you paid me more”

How fast would you be laughed out of the office?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:53 pm to
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Yes fire every teacher...... a profession already lacking in Louisiana which is why pretty much every Parish has long-term subs in critical areas. Makes sense to me


I see reading comprehension and critical thinking are not your strong suits, slow down and try again sport
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:56 pm to
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teaches critical thinking


Schools use this to justify hours spent in a classroom.

I knew this would be the reply.

Just like I have to have certain classes for my degree. Why? Critical thinking. No. It's a fricking waste of time, money and memory.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:56 pm to
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This can open a huge debate. I personally think it's ignorant with the technology we have that we still teach like we did back in the day. We fill these kids heads with so much shite that can easily be googled in a matter of seconds.


Hold up. You want a University of Phoenix type educational system for our youth and further, our college system??

Am I in the nexus of an OT 100 page debate on a Friday night?

Post this at 10:00 am Monday. Could be a crazy thread.
This post was edited on 4/27/18 at 11:57 pm
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:57 pm to
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I only have an opinion on you and it's that you are being whiny as shite.
Says the guy who replies to every teacher thread, would you like me to post your post history as proof because I've already looked. You hate teachers apparently.

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There are plenty of fine teachers that plug along do the best with what they can and try to seize opportunities like everyone else.
Sure there are plenty of many professions that do this, that doesn't mean they don't deserve compensation for what they've accomplished.


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Not sure what that has to do with anything. She teaches school just like you do. In fact, it's probably harder because she has to to contend with a language barrier.
Actually there is a reason ESL teachers get paid less because it is not as hard. It is actually easier because they don't get raises based on grades/scores, nor are the subjected to the weekly inspections that others teachers have that go into those bonuses.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:57 pm to
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Teachers will concede that the education system is subpar. Their suggestion for improving it is to pay the employees who are producing a subpar product MORE money?? Try going to your private sector boss and saying “I know my product hasn’t been good, but I think I’d do better if you paid me more”
I've stated several times my opinion on this, I'm sorry you are too dense to read it....
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:58 pm to


I'm sure
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:58 pm to
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Hold up. You want a University of Phoenix type educational system for our youth and further, our college system??


No. I don't want to waste time on shite that kids don't need.

It gets thrown down as "critical thinking".

How much of the first two years of college do most use in their profession? Probably very little. I'm sure we hurt our children with time that could be used on better subjects and more life skills.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 12:00 am
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