re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana

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She works at least 55 hours a week with grading and shite, so the summer off pretty much averages out.

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Perpetual clock punchers who are counting hours make what they deserve IMO.

What most teachers arguing for higher pay don't understand is that if teacher pay is more comparable to doctors, engineers, lawyers, CPAs, etc. then people who are going into those fields and aren't currently considering teaching due to pay are far more likely to move into education.


When that happens, where do the majority of current teachers go?

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Says a lot about a Masters in Education, don't you think?

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Yeah. I mean, the reality is, the teachers with a masters versus the teachers with a bachelors are doing the SAME JOB. Yes, the masters folks put in more school, but to what end? Their job description is generally no different than their bachelor counterparts. There aren't stepping-stone positions to move up to in a school if you aren't going the specialist/doctorate route, so the masters is truly a waste of money and time.

I still find it interesting that people don't find $45-50k to be pretty good when considering the benefits they're getting working for the state. Everyone looks at the salary and not at the total compensation package. I get it if the cost of living is high where you are, but it's not where I am. Would it be good in Chicago? Of course not.

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You have no idea what it takes to teach and your ignorant comments prove this. I’d love to see you last a day in a Middle School classroom and try to figure out how to plan for and teach a block period with actual instruction that requires depth of knowledge, critical thinking, and writing. Then turn around and grade all the work on your own time. A monkey can turn the knob and watch a gauge at the plant while dreaming of truck nuts for a douche truck. You wouldn’t make it in a classroom. Add in dealing with parents like you who don’t back up teachers and create children with no respect. It takes a special person to raise your kids for you for so little

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I've said probably 10 times I'd never want to be a teacher. Mainly because a lot of parents are shitty. However, my only argument is their compensation is fair. They have 8+ weeks off a year and make the median income. Not a bad gig. Then we developed in tdeucen's personal views, which are he thinks he deserves more money yet doesn't want to give anything up. For the third time in this thread, being a teacher you get 80% salary in perpetuity in retirement (which is around $1 million after 20 years), you don't pay SS, you pay very, very low medical, etc. These things are all forms of compensation. I'll ask you what Cave asked tdeucen, would you take a 50% raise to be entered into the SS pool, save for your own retirement and pay your own health care? The answer is no which means your total "real compensation" (economic term) is worth more than that.

Most make more than cops. Quit whining

I am a teacher that also coaches. I have been doing this for 23 years now. I love my job and I won't bitch about my pay. I knew the shortcomings of the profession going in. I work every summer and "in season" with the sport I coach, I average 15-18 hour days. However, I choose to do that. As for grading papers, high school and junior high English teachers (and middle school teachers to a degree) really put in quite a few hours at home. However, that was their choice. On a final note, in spite of loving my job, there is absolutely no way I would ever recommend teaching as a profession to a young person considering it. The politicians on both sides have gotten involved to the point where they are really doing much more harm than good. Just my .02.

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They didn’t ask for pity. They asked for pay

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In Louisiana, more than 50 percent of my teachers were idiots. Maybe I was unlucky, or maybe the barrier to entry is just so damn small.

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we can agree to disagree already

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You don't care to comment on the pension aspect of his argument? 75 percent of your pay for life after 30 years on the job is a good deal.

Look at it like this, if two teachers are married in La. and sharing a household, their combined salaries aren't bad and, once both are pensioned -- that's not bad retirement pay.

On a side note, I am sometimes surprised when I see how much high school teachers make in places like suburban New Jersey -- it's around double what La. teachers earn.

PS My scenario about two teachers marrying and living together in a combined-income household may not be very common because attractive young female teachers probably are not interested in marrying a male teacher -- they probably want to "marry-up" like most attractive females.

I guess that the fatties would marry a male teacher, though. And what's wrong with a Fatty? Their lady parts still work AND I bet they can cook!

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tduecen

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I'll donate $5 if you start a gofundme