- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Teacher Salaries in Louisiana
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:18 pm to momentoftruth87
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:18 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:Depends on how you mean? State testing? Federal Grants? State Grants? What
do schools benefit by children being on an IEP under special education? That's my question
State testing means the child can be given extra time or exempt depending on the disability. That can help or hurt a school.
If it is federal/state grants based on the amount on an IEP can mean more funds. However, every Parish I've worked at the parent has to initiate the IEP, the school can recommend based on test scores but they can not file any paper work without the parent.
1
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:19 pm to tduecen
quote:
I guess that goes for police officers, firefighters, nurses, etc... ever profession that may complain about their job
They are all free to put in notice if they think they can get a better deal elsewhere. They typically choose not to because they realize they are getting an equitable deal.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:20 pm to tduecen
quote:
So I should leave a career I've spent money and time on and move to another just because I "may" get paid more instead of getting paid what I'm actually worth.
People do it daily across all industries and professions, why should you be exempt?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:22 pm to tduecen
quote:
Depends on how you mean? State testing? Federal Grants? State Grants? What
Yes, all of this.
quote:
If it is federal/state grants based on the amount on an IEP can mean more funds. However, every Parish I've worked at the parent has to initiate the IEP, the school can recommend based on test scores but they can not file any paper work without the parent.
I know a parent has to sign paperwork, but I'm honestly suspect if the district here is pushing this on parents to benefit themselves.
This isn't in Louisiana. A district where I grew up, went thru, graduated from and now see as a parent. I know most of the teachers and kids and I have had this feeling for awhile.
I was asking also how common this is for schools to do this to receive something in return. I have looked it up, but would like teachers input on this subject. Figured since this thread will attract teachers, I'd ask.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:22 pm to tigercross
quote:
They typically choose not to because they realize they are getting an equitable deal.
Or they realize the time, effort, and schooling to make what they currently make isn't worth it. I mean if I left my current position to move to a more lucrative position do I really want to work longer to achieve the same pay? Considering I will start off lower than what I currently make. Again this argument is a pure fallacy because no one is ever satisfied with their pay which is why they want a bonus/raise. If they did not get that then everyone would believe what you propose.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:23 pm to tduecen
Are you part of the TSRL system?
If yes, you pay a portion and your employer pays 3 times what you pay into it. If you live 10 years beyond retirement at 40K per year, you will have earned 400K. Almost 4x what you are personally putting in.
My wife is a teacher. Does she wish she made more? Yes sure, but she has loved being a teacher and should end up making approximately 58,000-63,000 per year in retirement and she didn't come close to paying that amount over her career. The things she has accomplished and the lives she helped develop and impact was why she joined the profession.
Over the years the changes in laws, rules, social expectations or more importantly the degradation of social expectations. Parents not being involved and the school system eroding the power of discipline and accountability has ruined the profession.
I would guess teachers salaries could take a significant jump if all the waste was wrangled.
Good luck to you, but you and most municipal, government employees benefit on the back end financially in retirement. If you stay, just work to remain very healthy so you can really stick it to your Parish.
If yes, you pay a portion and your employer pays 3 times what you pay into it. If you live 10 years beyond retirement at 40K per year, you will have earned 400K. Almost 4x what you are personally putting in.
My wife is a teacher. Does she wish she made more? Yes sure, but she has loved being a teacher and should end up making approximately 58,000-63,000 per year in retirement and she didn't come close to paying that amount over her career. The things she has accomplished and the lives she helped develop and impact was why she joined the profession.
Over the years the changes in laws, rules, social expectations or more importantly the degradation of social expectations. Parents not being involved and the school system eroding the power of discipline and accountability has ruined the profession.
I would guess teachers salaries could take a significant jump if all the waste was wrangled.
Good luck to you, but you and most municipal, government employees benefit on the back end financially in retirement. If you stay, just work to remain very healthy so you can really stick it to your Parish.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:24 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:In every Parish I've worked in we don't want this because this means more accommodations, more hours, more work for teachers.
but I'm honestly suspect if the district here is pushing this on parents to benefit themselves.
quote:As I mentioned most of the places I've worked don't want IEP's because of the extra work associated with them. Students without are easier to deal with and manage.
I was asking also how common this is for schools to do this to receive something in return. I have looked it up, but would like teachers input on this subject
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:24 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
People do it daily across all industries and professions, why should you be exempt?
Well we have a couple of options. Either teachers are irrational actors who choose to remain in jobs where the pay scale is unfair (tdeucen’s word) compared to their market value. Or teachers actually do receive salaries comparable to their skills.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:27 pm to tigercross
quote:Or there is a middle where teachers are not fairly compensated but there is not much they do other than strike like in Oklahoma. You have quality teachers being paid the same as horrible teachers, receiving the same bonus, the same pay, etc... they have an outdated system on paying teachers and it should be based on experience + degree like many other jobs
Either teachers are irrational actors who choose to remain in jobs where the pay scale is unfair (tdeucen’s word) compared to their market value. Or teachers actually do receive salaries comparable to their skills.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:28 pm to tigercross
Does TOPS fund secondary education majors?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:28 pm to tduecen
quote:
You have quality teachers being paid the same as horrible teachers
You can blame that on the unions my friend.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:29 pm to tduecen
quote:
You have quality teachers being paid the same as horrible teachers, receiving the same bonus, the same pay, etc... they have an outdated system on paying teachers and it should be based on experience + degree like many other jobs
Voice your concerns to the school board.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:32 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
Voice your concerns to the school board.
and get arrested, that is part of the problem.... look at Louisiana many Parishes have no had a raise, yet the superintendent and those higher positions have gone up 10-50% in some areas. Probably one of the biggest teacher complaints in the world is that we are not compensated for our work but those in the position of power are. I've complained to my school board and was shut down because I just didn't understand what the superintendent did. What a fricking farce that is.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:35 pm to tduecen
Then educate the community and vote for better board members.
Nothing will ever be perfect man. You keep making excuses or running around what ppl are telling you.
Nothing will ever be perfect man. You keep making excuses or running around what ppl are telling you.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:38 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:People act like this is the easiest thing possible. Just look at the OT, they hate teachers and many other individuals feel that teachers are overpaid, baby-sitters. Yet they complain about public schools, they complain about quality teachers, they complain about quality schools..... they want one thing and complain about something else
Then educate the community and vote for better board members.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:39 pm to tduecen
It's true. Sincerely is.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:40 pm to tduecen
quote:
and get arrested, that is part of the problem
Oh Jesus Christ
They don't listen, but it's because you disqualify yourself from being taken seriously by saying stupid shite like that
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:41 pm to tduecen
quote:
eople act like this is the easiest thing possible. Just look at the OT, they hate teachers and many other individuals feel that teachers are overpaid, baby-sitters. Yet they complain about public schools, they complain about quality teachers, they complain about quality schools..... they want one thing and complain about something
Maybe if we paid teachers more then we would get better teachers. It would be like a chick fila or in-n-out employee vs Burger King. But on the other hand, a lot of good teachers are already willing to do the job for shitty pay, so why pay them more?
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:41 pm to tduecen
quote:
People act like this is the easiest thing possible. Just look at the OT, they hate teachers and many other individuals feel that teachers are overpaid, baby-sitters. Yet they complain about public schools, they complain about quality teachers, they complain about quality schools..... they want one thing and complain about something else
Putting a fricking tip jar on your desk then. That seems about the most work youre willing to put in to get anything done. I guess you're stretched too thin already.
Posted on 4/27/18 at 11:41 pm to tduecen
quote:
tduecen
Going by your statements and lack of understanding of pretty much anything you should be extremely grateful you have this public sector job because frankly you are ill equipped to survive the private sector from all appearances.
Seriously.
Page 7 of 14
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News