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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

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Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120003 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:30 am to
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Bronc used to exclusively post on the Pelicans Board which lead me to believe Bronc is not a female.



Why? Are you saying there is only a certain type of female who is a Pelicans fan? That's dumb.
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:31 am to
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nah I personally edited because I type fast and proofread rarely.


I type poorly as well and reedit for that.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:33 am to
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I have seen a TON of edits on this thread …a ton!

Why? Is a moderator doing editing? To get the board safe from legal troubles??



Olderthandirt scrubbed his entire early post history when he was going hard defending accidentally fricking underage girls and slandering the mother
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:34 am to
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How many suspects, male or female, have gotten jail sentences that were not suspended in situations with similar parameters? Not many. And some of those were teachers who knew for a fact the person they were having sex with was underage.



Semantics and whataboutism. How many of those cases involved a child getting pregnant with a baby then giving custody of that baby to the damn criminal. I don't give a shite how bad the mother was, How questionable her life is whatever. Put the child in foster care if you think it is that bad. But to skirt the law and say hey we'll ignore the obvious law we have on the books for "reasons" is just mind boggling.

But lets keep arresting people for joints and handing out them tickets. Back the blue boys.
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:34 am to
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You really coming over here with that silliness?

How pathetic a human being are you, truly?

Not until traveling outside my Pels bubble have I realized how many utter mental midgets populate this board.


He was being humorous, Gelding.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31306 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:37 am to
TIFWIW, but that story matches the scuttlebutt that was going around town at the time. If I’m remembering they were out at Bradys when they met and she was drinking at the bar with a bunch of girls. They had the ONS and he didn’t hear from her.

She let the boyfriend think it was his kid. He didn’t find out until years later that she was under age and he might have a kid. She’s been doing all kinds of crazy shite which is why the judge has basically put a stop to any of her crazy allegations. The article talks about her taking her daughter to see her not Dad in prison even after she knew he wasn’t her father.

Again, I know nothing personally aside from what was going around Tangi about it.

Either way, lesson to kids of dating age. Be very careful what you stick your dick in.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 7:44 am to
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TIFWIW, but that story matches the scuttlebutt that was going around town at the time. If I’m remembering they were out at Bradys when they met and she was drinking at the bar with a bunch of girls. They had the ONS and he didn’t hear from her.


It's in multiple articles and statements, Barnes was friends with the brother of Crysta's friend. That's why he was there.

This was not a random encounter. 30 Year old Barnes knew they were high schoolers and proceeded anyways.

If she is actually an unfit mother, then there are processes for rectifying that, for the 16 year old and her other kids, but handing custody to the rapist, who also has a pending domestic abuse allegation, and allegations from the daughter, aint it.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6918 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:23 am to
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Barnes was friends with the brother of Crysta's friend.


Do we know how old this other girl was? Was it a group of college girls and one 16 year old or was it a group of high-schoolers with fake ID's pretending to be college girls?
I think I've seen articles from both sides that describe her being out with a "group" of friends.
Posted by AnAmericanGirl
Member since Feb 2019
580 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:46 am to
The court needs to appoint an attorney to represent the daughter. She needs a voice. While the DA's office investigates the 2005 incident the child should be in the custody of neither parent. There has to be a family member who can step up and provide this child a home until the legal process plays out.

I'm sure when this woman became pregnant at 16 she, like most at that age, named the boy she was in a relationship with as the father. No one at that age is going to admit the father could be the man she had a one night encounter with. She made the best decision she could at the time. She was a child herself and does not have the insight or life experience to have made a better choice.

The boyfriend at the time bonded with a child he thought was his. She kept that relationship with this boyfriend and the child even when he got in trouble with the law. Probably because the child and the named father were bonded. Again, she did what she thought was right for the child.

Even is she thought Barnes was the father early on she probably felt stuck. She made a decision years ago and life happened. I bet she never wanted to see Barnes again. She never wanted to be connected to him for many reasons. She ended up being right to keep him at bay.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175612 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:50 am to
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I'm sure when this woman became pregnant at 16 she, like most at that age, named the boy she was in a relationship with as the father. No one at that age is going to admit the father could be the man she had a one night encounter with. She made the best decision she could at the time. She was a child herself and does not have the insight or life experience to have made a better choice.

That guy was 21.
Posted by AnAmericanGirl
Member since Feb 2019
580 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 8:53 am to
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That guy was 21.


Ok, so he was also too old for her. She was in some sore of relationship with him and probably assumed he was the father.
This post was edited on 6/20/22 at 8:55 am
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:08 am to
For the folks hoping he goes to jail it is just not happening.

We have had multiple cases in Louisiana over the last several years where a teacher slept with an underaged partner. In these cases, the teacher knew with specificity the age of the minor involved. Even with that, the judges in these cases often handed out suspended sentences. Shelly Dufresne, who was 32, got a suspended sentence and did not have to register as a sex offender even though the 16 year old was her student and she had sex on multiple occasions. Rachel Respess's charges were dismissed completely. Teacher Heidi Marie Domangue, 30 at the time of offense, was charged with three counts of carnal knowledge of a juvenile. She did not have to serve jail time or register as a sex offender. Teacher Amber Anderson was arrested for carnal knowledge of a 15 year old juvenile in 2016 and ended up with a sentence of a two-year probation after pleading guilty. Teacher Ashley Meyer, 33, was found guilty of carnal knowledge of a juvenile and received a suspended sentence. 41 year old teacher Ashley Dowden received a suspended sentence after having sex with a 16 year old student. In all of these cases, the accused was the teacher of these minors and had precise knowledge of their age. While I did not go to bars and go home with college women at 30 years old and think it a bit sleazy, it is not illegal. The alleged victim in this case illegally went to a bar to drink. When 16 year olds go to a bar where you have to be 21 to drink they usually dress like they are 21 older. They do not wear their high school cheerleader's outfit and pigtails to the bar. She then told multiple people a similar story as to being an upperclassmen at a local university. While that does not clear him of the violation of LA RS 14:80, the history of sentencing in the state for others with a more clearcut knowledge of the victim's age and the discretion allowed judges in Louisiana indicates he will never see a jail cell. That me be morally repugnant but that is the sentencing case law in Louisiana. And it is possible this case could be difficult to prosecute for other reasons. There is question as to if Mr Barnes had discovered the alleged victims age when he AGREED to be tested for paternity. If the fraud by the alleged victim as to her age had continued to that point he would have an excellent argument to exclude the DNA evidence from use due to his right to not self-incriminate. While the court could order a new DNA test there are some precedents that may allow him to fight it.

Now we start to the countdown to Bronc's post....The Finasteride he takes make him jumpy and angry.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:09 am to
Female teachers get lower sentences for fricking the underaged than a male teacher.

Pull up male teachers convinced of Carnal Knowledge of a Juvenile for some more accurate comps.
Posted by Olderthandirt
Member since May 2022
559 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:10 am to
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Female teachers get lower sentences for fricking the underaged than a male teacher.

Pull up male teachers convinced of Carnal Knowledge of a Juvenile for some more accurate comps.


A lot of the male comps involved other charges and issues. These were the closest in regards to ages and charges.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:28 am to
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That guy was 21.
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Ok, so he was also too old for her. She was in some sore of relationship with him and probably assumed he was the father.

He had carnal knowledge of a minor just like Barnes. I mean he's got a wrap sheet as long as yard stick and is in prison, but he broke the law with a minor too.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:28 am to
Again, your Barnes defense-forcing falls apart when she names her friend in the police report and Barnes was there at the bar with the brother of her friend.

This was not a random encounter. And if he was unaware of her exact age, it wasn't because he couldn't have easily found out.

I too would like to see what the sentencing was on similar male to female cases, including if they determine it was forcible rape on the night in question(you all framing her as a slut doesn't mean she can't be raped), but the matter here is the child. And a father with pending sexual assault allegations from a mother and daughter and domestic abuse allegations from a separate woman.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103106 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:40 am to
“I thought she was 17” isn’t a defense in this state, even if the girl lied to the guy.

Someone I know ended up having to plea out over similar charges because an underage girl was fricking people she met online and lying about her age.

The ages of everyone involved plus DNA evidence of paternity makes that open and shut from the state’s perspective.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:40 am to
Like I've said all along, this child does not need to be living with either parent. She should be placed in foster care, get her away from both of her white trash parents.

That girl has not had a structured family life of any kind and that's sad. She has a rapist, woman abusing father on the prowl for all sorts of women and a trashy mother running through men (some imprisoned) like a slut.

How child protective services and a freaking judge has allowed the girl to be exposed to God knows what kind of home life with shite parents like that is dumbfounding to me?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:46 am to
Whether he goes to jail or not for carnal knowledge of a juvenile is immaterial to the fact he should have never have had any say, nor for that matter full custody of the child in question.

And this is if the actual rape allegations from the mother and child herself proves to be untrue.

That's the part of this that pisses me off the most. The fact law enforcement and a judge with actual DNA evidence in front of them let this dude have parental rights at all is just flat out wrong.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 9:55 am to
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Whether he goes to jail or not for carnal knowledge of a juvenile is immaterial to the fact he should have never have had any say, nor for that matter full custody of the child in question.

And this is if the actual rape allegations from the mother and child herself proves to be untrue.

That's the part of this that pisses me off the most. The fact law enforcement and a judge with actual DNA evidence in front of them let this dude have parental rights at all is just flat out wrong.

The rape victim (mother) allowed him parental rights and allowed him to have a active relationship with the child. She accepted $450/month in child support from him for years and he provided and paid for the child's cellphone with the understanding that the phone would have parental controls at all times.
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