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re: Tangipahoa Parish rape victim ordered to pay her abuser child support

Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14035 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:26 pm to
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The police probably concluded that it was a 10 year old rape allegation filed by a woman in the midst of a bitter legal dispute with the accused and ignored it


This would be about 100 times worse than the “uh we lost it” response they gave. Wtf kind of logic is this?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103921 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:27 pm to
Maybe the cops didn’t have enough fingers to count to 17.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23223 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:29 pm to
Congratulations on being the 300th LSU poster to make the same clever comment whenever you see something you disagree with.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
15281 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:31 pm to
Louisiana is an absolute disgrace. I don’t have to read through 25 pages of people arguing about this to understand that. What a shame.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22340 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:32 pm to
The Judge needs to be held accountable for this. There’s absolutely ZERO excuse as to why the piece of shite rapist shouldn’t be charged with carnal knowledge of a Juvenile. I don’t give a shite about some bullshite “good ole boys” network. This is a case of what is right, and what is wrong. No Judge is above the law.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103921 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:51 pm to
Doesn’t make it any less easy to make.

Acting like a fricking tool at least means you are living up to your name.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46793 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 7:58 pm to
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“The Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff’s Office has reviewed and identified the breakdown in operations relating to the initial complaint filed by the complainant.


So the bug-eyed weasel has figured out why it was ignored.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:31 pm to
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This would be about 100 times worse than the “uh we lost it” response they gave. Wtf kind of logic is this?
What kind of logic is what? You really believe they lost it?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 8:33 pm to
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The Judge needs to be held accountable for this. There’s absolutely ZERO excuse as to why the piece of shite rapist shouldn’t be charged with carnal knowledge of a Juvenile.

Charges of carnal knowledge of a juvenile were not presented to the judge. I’m not sure the degree to which a judge can sua sponte convict someone without an arrest, trial and prosecution.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:35 pm to
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The 2015 rape report did not mention anything about underage. The police probably concluded that it was a 10 year old rape allegation filed by a woman in the midst of a bitter legal dispute with the accused and ignored it.



Next up on Havoc's apologist tour: The police probably concluded that the rape allegation alleged by the daughter was in the midst of a bitter dispute over the mother's rape allegation of the same father and thats why they felt they needed to ignore their requests regarding her rape kit.


Followed by the sequel: The judge probably concluded that the rape allegation by the mother and the daughter were ignored by the police, so that's why he felt it necessary to ignore the evidence in his judgement and award full custody to the father.


Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:43 pm to
What in the frick are you talking about, you fricking idiot? My first words in this thread were concurring about the statutory rape. In the post you’re citing I’m explaining the most likely scenario by the police, not defending it or their actions. God you are fricking stupid and unhinged.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 9:52 pm to
Well lets look at Havoc's post history following the one token mention it was statutory rape:

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Well, I’m sure there are a number of possible factors that if present would make it seem much less so. Meeting a girl in a bar IMO is a pretty reasonable basis to believe she’s at least 17-18, if not older, although again not a legal defense. Maybe she was with older friends as well.


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You don’t know how old she looked.


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if they ruled she was too intoxicated to know what was going on and he raped her,


You:
So like a pre-rape breathalyzer or field sobriety test?


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Okay, what if she looks 19? 20?



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a DNA test confirmed the timeline of the rape


You questioning how DNA tests work
How did it do that?


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Haven’t seen this mentioned but really sounds fishy:
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Abelseth said she waited to file the police report because she did not know the law. "I thought if I didn't do it the next day, there was nothing I could do about it," Abelseth said.


Really??


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I’m talking about her saying she thought rape had to be reported the next day. Nobody thinks that.


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I’m curious as to your personal involvement in this matter.


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Dude you are so horrible and unhinged you’ve actually done more damage to the victims case here in this discussion with your idiotic repeated false assumptions and unnecessary vitriol.
frick.
But please keep posting the same shite over and over and over and over again.


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The 2015 rape report did not mention anything about underage. The police probably concluded that it was a 10 year old rape allegation filed by a woman in the midst of a bitter legal dispute with the accused and ignored it.



So to summary, all you have done all thread is basically:

1.) Infer the blame on the woman and make excuses for John Barnes

2.) Throw doubt at the woman's claims, make more excuses for John Barnes.

3.) After finally pausing excuses for John Barnes, pivot to making up excuses for the police mishandeling of her allegation while subtly still questioning her allegation.

4.) Attack me for calling John Barnes the predator POS he is and clutch pearls about how that is pushing you to side with John Barnes


In all those posts:

No condemnation of Barnes, no skepticism toward his claims, the police claims, the judge's behavior, the conflicts of interest between Barnes and the police, the daughters own rape allegation and subsequent medical reports confirming forced entry and the rape kit police refuse to cooperate with the family about, the additional allegations of domestic abuse by an unrelated partner to John Barnes....no comment there, just skepticism of the woman and rationalizations for the police
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:02 pm to
Dude you are brain damaged.

And your lack of self awareness as to how batshit crazy you is astounding.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95591 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:03 pm to
First of all, this sounds like a statutory rape situation. I'm not saying the victim (in any hypothetical rape situation) has to go straight from the scene to the police station (regardless of what sort of rape it is), but that internal mental clock in all of us is ticking and it sure is in mine.

IF you wait a year, 2 years, 10 years, sure the statute of limitations hasn't run yet, but I'm afraid I'm skeptical and going to need a little more than your word.

So, with all that "right wing" bullshite out of the way, the dude would be in a pickle with me. I don't need a lot more evidence to gig him pretty hard (whether I was the civil or criminal judge) - DNA test and 3 birth certificates ought to do it.

He better be able to prove he's a time traveler and he was too young for it to be statutory rape in 2005. I don't know what else could exonerate him.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:06 pm to
Says the guy spending two days conjuring up excuses for poor policing and a predator rapist, then personally attacking anyone challenging his bullshite.

Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:11 pm to
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Says the guy spending two days conjuring up excuses for poor policing and a predator rapist, then personally attacking anyone challenging his bullshite.

I’ve made about 7-8 posts here.

YOU’VE been here non stop almost 24/7 repeating the same shite over and over again, you fricking idiot psycho.

See, there’s that utter lack of self awareness again.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:20 pm to
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but that internal mental clock in all of us is ticking and it sure is in mine.



This thread is a perfect example of why many woman hesitate to go to the police.

As she said in her Daily Mail interview, she struggled with shame and the expectation of people blaming her, her blaming herself, and that the boyfriend wanted to be the father. Felt she should just bury it and try and move on.

When John pushed his way into her life and fought for custody, she ended up in counseling and told there was an opportunity to still press charges, she still hesitated because of all the mounting bills from the legal disputes and how John was basically draining her financially by constantly filing things in court she'd have to lawyer up to defend. All while he's threatening her.

Anyone that has known well someone in their life that has been raped or assaulted could see familiar patterns here.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:25 pm to
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I’ve made about 7-8 posts here.

YOU’VE been here non stop almost 24/7 repeating the same shite over and over again, you fricking idiot psycho.

See, there’s that utter lack of self awareness again.


This seems to be the new go-to for some of you John Barnes apologists.

You started off slut shaming, making every excuse you could to defend John's honor, aggressively going after anyone questioning your John Barnes excuses, and now that the additional facts have come out and eviscerated that nonsense, you are leaving unacknowledged all the new facts, doubling down on defending the police, and pivoting to going after the people that questioned that gut reactionary defending of Barnes/police/judge.

This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
49661 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:31 pm to
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What's the relationship between John Barnes and the Barnes girl that used to own this place?


Not really sure. If I recall she opened it but didn’t own it very long.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39231 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 10:41 pm to
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You started off slut shaming,

Please cite this. Of course you posted all my posts above so please point out which one was slut shaming. Hint: you can’t.

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making every excuse you could to defend John's honor

bullshite, there were a few issues I addressed logically regarding the facts and circumstance.
You truly are one stupid motherfricker.

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aggressively going after anyone questioning your John Barnes excuses,

Again, WTF are you talking about? You’re the only one I’ve attacked because you’re an idiotic psychopath posting here literally 24/7 like some rabid dog.
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