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Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:57 am to Olderthandirt
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This dude has around 50 posts on this one topic. He seems to have some sort of sick fetish over this thing.
I am thankful this poster has exposed so many on here who were so quick to dismiss this woman and her story when it first came out.
He has done the digging. He has done the fact finding. And as more information came to light those who first threw this woman under the bus are now starting to see that maybe, just maybe, the system screwed this woman over.
We still don't know all of the details. We still don't know what is yet to come out.
What we do know is a girl of 16 got pregnant by a man of 30.
And that everything going through the court and through the authorities so far has been to the advantage of the man who had sex with a minor.
This man who should have known that any action he took with regards to this woman and the child could potentially expose him to criminal charges. And yet he felt confident enough that this huge detail would not come back to hurt him. Arrogance or confidence?
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:09 am to AnAmericanGirl
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so many on here who were so quick to dismiss this woman and her story when it first came out.
I think that's partly due to no one believing the sheriff's dept, the judge, etc., could be that corrupt or that incompetent.
Many, including myself, could not fathom this level of failure by LE and the court and just knew there had to be more to the story... , Most have switched sides now that more information has come out. But yes, there are still a few stragglers
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:17 am to JDPndahizzy
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I think that's partly due to no one believing the sheriff's dept, the judge, etc., could be that corrupt or that incompetent.
True. And time and time again when a story first hits the media we all think we have all the facts. And we never do. Nothing is ever what it seems at first glance. But people make a decision on partial information and then feel the need to hang onto that.
Give things time. We all shouldn't be so quick to judge.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:49 am to Havoc
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What kind of logic is what? You really believe they lost it?
I don't believe they lost it at all like they said, but them just shrugging it off because it was "10 years old and in a bitter custody dispute" would be absolutely sickening. If the choices are they lost it or they ignored it, the easier choice to stomach is they lost it.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:31 am to Olderthandirt
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This dude has around 50 posts on this one topic. He seems to have some sort of sick fetish over this thing.
Oh look, you’re back!
Wanna explain why you scrubbed all those slanderous posts making up shite about the court documents and woman throughout the thread? Continue to personally attack the people not slandering with you?
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 10:34 am
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:53 am to Havoc
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quote: As she said in her Daily Mail interview, she struggled with shame and the expectation of people blaming her, her blaming herself, and that the boyfriend wanted to be the father. Felt she should just bury it and try and move on.
Weird, that contradicts what she said in the prior interview: quote: Abelseth said she waited to file the police report because she did not know the law. "I thought if I didn't do it the next day, there was nothing I could do about it,"
Abelseth said.
So…which is it?
One statement doesn’t contradict the other and they both can be true.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:56 am to LSUGrrrl
Never mind. Both of you should take a deep breath and go for a walk. Can’t tell if your lawyers or toddlers.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:56 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Are you suggesting that the woman is lying about her age, his age or her daughters age?
shite is too nuanced for these retards.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 11:54 am to Olderthandirt
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Olderthandirt
It is clear you are connected to the rapist in some way. Nobody would try so hard to paint the victim as bad without some level of personal involvement. It was like you thought you were Russia and she was The Ukraine.
Exactly how are you involved? Use details, when explaining. TIA
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:01 pm to Hangit
She says he knows the daughter but hasn’t explained how. Maybe a friend if his own child? 
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:51 pm to LSUGrrrl
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She says he knows the daughter but hasn’t explained how. Maybe a friend if his own child?
No. He has skin in the game, somehow. He was too invested in giving her an internet beatdown. Now he has switched to speaking ill of those who called him out on his odd behavior.
It is similar to the sheriff calling her out because she did not nag them to do their gig. Apparently, they feel compelled to try and sway public opinion.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:04 pm to Hangit
The statement released by the Sheriff's office yesterday was awful. Who ever wrote that needs to be fired.
"... the sheriff’s office, along with other law enforcement agencies, does not have the luxury of releasing detailed information to the public."
Luxury? You gotta be kidding me.
"Additionally, it is important to note that the complainant did not follow up on this matter until April of 2022."
So, its her fault your office screwed this up, ok got it.
"Sheriff Edwards strongly discourages the use of social media to report crimes. Edwards also reminds the public that filing a false police report is a crime. Those found guilty of doing so will be fully prosecuted."
This sounds like a threat. There was no need to include this.
So from April 2022 when the "complainant" followed up to June 15 what the hell were they doing?
"... the sheriff’s office, along with other law enforcement agencies, does not have the luxury of releasing detailed information to the public."
Luxury? You gotta be kidding me.
"Additionally, it is important to note that the complainant did not follow up on this matter until April of 2022."
So, its her fault your office screwed this up, ok got it.
"Sheriff Edwards strongly discourages the use of social media to report crimes. Edwards also reminds the public that filing a false police report is a crime. Those found guilty of doing so will be fully prosecuted."
This sounds like a threat. There was no need to include this.
So from April 2022 when the "complainant" followed up to June 15 what the hell were they doing?
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:06 pm to LSUGrrrl
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Nothing new on this today?
A brief scan and there was another interview last night that offered a few new details, and further put the nail into some of the more insidious one-way “just askin questions” nonsense exclusively toward the woman early in the thread, such as she must be a deadbeat, on drugs, been a terrible mother, had a criminal record etc.
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Stacie Triche, who is Abelseth’s advocate and founder of the nonprofit SAVLIV35 Foundation, believes that politics are in play with the judge’s decision.
“You have birth certificates. You have DNA evidence. All the facts are there, so this mother should have never had to go through this mud that she’s going through for the past 10 years with this legal battle back and fourth, because he should have never been given any rights to the child at all,” Triche said.
Abelseth also alleges that she lost partial custody because she gave her 16-year-old daughter a cellphone.
“Crysta did not give her 15-year-old another cellphone. It was an allegation that was made. An ex parte was filed, and Crysta lost custody. She wasn’t able to defend herself,” Tiche said.
Abelseth said that she’s only able to visit her daughter during supervised visitations every other weekend. “He’s blocked my number. He will not let me speak to her, and that’s been a few weeks.”
“What is so beyond shocking about this case is we’re dealing with an amazing mother who’s never been in trouble with the law. She’s never had a drug problem. Yet, custody is being taken away from her. However, he has a criminal past,” Triche said.
LINK
Not quoted but in the video, Crysta details a bit more of what happened after filing the report. She said the police told her to stay quiet so as to not alert the accused until they could do their job, she kept calling for a long time and they would tell her it’s still pending, we’re working on it. So she trusted the system to work but nothing was moving.
John also seems to be a toxic controlling person and the whole cell phone issue started cause John wanted complete and total access to her phone at all times and made a big stink about it and the judge basically just rubber stamped his wishes behind closed doors and without allowing Crysta or her lawyers a defense.
There’s also an indication that the July 15th hearing will involve the daughters allegations against John, they said they couldn’t answer certain questions at the moment due to sensitivity/their legal uncertainty on what they should or shouldn’t disclose yet and Crysta wanting to protect her daughters privacy for the moment, and because she can’t be a participant in any conversations on the matter cause John has basically cut her off from her and is only getting access every other week under supervision. Of which the judge has and will not give any explanation for why such measures were taken and nothing in the unsealed documents currently suggest a just cause for it
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:41 pm to Bronc
Can’t wait to hear about the July court hearing.
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:53 pm to Hangit
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Exactly how are you involved? Use details, when explaining. TIA
Olderthandirt =/= Jeff Cashe
Dumberthandirt = Jeff Cashe
Just sayin’…
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/17/22 at 9:29 pm to Skeet Mc
He was spewing a lot of things that, if true, JC may know. His bashing of her may have also been to cover that arse.
Did he ever preside over a Hollywood star's adoption?
Did he ever preside over a Hollywood star's adoption?
Posted on 6/18/22 at 6:16 am to SPEEDY
I'm on page 14 and before I get to the second half of this thread I'm skipping ahead to ask, is this whole thing just Bronc going back and forth with everybody posting the same thing about everybody being a rapist and pervert or is there new information and discussion?
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