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re: Take 40 minutes to watch Elon’s vision for making life interplanetary

Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 3:58 pm to
It will be interesting to see how all the non-leftists deal with Musk calling Trump's agenda a "disgusting abomination."
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:01 pm to
Im open to this line of thinking - what would be Elons response to these criticisms?

I still think its easily worth it considering he's doing this at a relatively cheap level (in regards to taxpayers).
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 4:02 pm
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Elon Musk was a darling of the American left until he joined DOGE.

Thats the only reason you folks hate the guy.

What's the point of making this observation when it's painfully obvious that the pendulum swings both ways?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:05 pm to
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So, he's either going to have to build megastructures to act as biodomes or find a way to create an artificial magnetosphere around a planet without the necessary iron core to make sustain its own. Colonizing Mars will take several centuries on a very small scale.


That still wont counteract the deleterious effects of long term low gravity.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:05 pm to
I hate how they waste my tax dollars on this stuff

Ill never get to go to space, the government should buy me a 4 wheeler or give me some food stamps
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:11 pm to
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What's the point of making this observation when it's painfully obvious that the pendulum swings both ways?


Among people with no real values.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:13 pm to
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what would be Elons response to these criticisms?


Well when Neil DeGrass Tyson mentioned these issues Musk said " They dont get it" " Mars is critical to the long-term survival of consciousness."

Which is a ridiculous response in so many ways....Musk later said "“the absurdly ambitious nature of the goal nonetheless results in the creation of alien-level technology that is crushingly better than competitors who merely aim for Earth orbit"

That makes a bit more sense and I think a short term visit, as with the moon shot, could be a good thing for humanity in both technology spin off and just as a unifying effort for humans.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:23 pm to
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I still think its easily worth it considering he's doing this at a relatively cheap level (in regards to taxpayers).


I could be mistaken but I dont believe the long term goal of Mars colonization is being funded by tax payers yet . In a round about way yes but a Mars shot is going to cost hundreds of billions of dollars...maybe even a trillion. He is being paid by us to develop the HLS system (which is Starship) to go to the moon that would in turn serve as jump pad for a Mars shot.
Posted by nugget
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:45 pm to
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He won't, though, because he's a fake genius. Feel free to bookmark this post.


What’s your net worth? Can you provide some sort of proof like a screenshot from accounts with today’s date?
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:51 pm to
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:55 pm to
just the delivery vehicle to get a manned crew into mars orbit, and keep them alive during the year plus it will take to get there, will be the single most expensive piece of equipment in the history of earth. Surely there are better investments than that
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33204 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 4:57 pm to
Did you not see 2010.....Europa is where the action is.

Also, I hear Ganemede has promise for domed farming operations.....I saw it on The Expanse.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:11 pm to
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"Mars is critical to the long-term survival of consciousness."


Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:18 pm to
just the delivery vehicle to get a manned crew into mars orbit, and keep them alive during the year plus it will take to get there, will be the single most expensive piece of equipment in the history of earth. Surely there are better investments than that

At some point, humanity will cease to exist on earth. Just like the dinosaurs, there will be a world ending event that makes life unsustainable on our planet. This is a fact. It happens every so often without fail, the end.

Nobody on earth now knows when this will happen; it could be in 2 months, 2 thousand years, or 2 million years. But it'll happen, this is undeniable fact. Whether it's human made, a giant volcano blocking out the sun with its ash and earthquakes, or a giant asteroid collision, at some point humanity will meet its end here on this planet.

I have no idea why anyone would oppose someone trying to solve that problem, even as infinitely impossible as it seems to us in 2025. I agree that his timelines and goals are wishful thinking and next to impossible, but SOMEONE has to try. We can't keep kicking the can down the road, because these events will happen whether we're prepared or not.

SpaceX has made huge advancements in humanity's ability to space travel whether you like Elon or not. These advancements may end up being like the cavemen learning to use tools for the first time in comparison to our current technology, when the time comes for us to be a multi-planetary species. But someone had to do it, and it damn sure wasn't happening in the public sector.

I don't understand the hate for Elon and SpaceX, other than someone that's just consumed by politics and mass media telling them what to think. Even if his advancements are 1% of the goal that insures humanity's survival, nobody else was taking this on. We're too busy being divided by trivial bullshite that doesn't matter when there's a world ending event on the horizon.



Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:21 pm to
Because he's using money that could be better put to use solving real, current problems, not an infinite inevitability.

I thought we were against government waste.
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:49 pm to

I'm sorry he's taking away money that could be used for UBI to pay the laziest in society to sit and do nothing while the rest of us work, transgender story hour in the Philippines, Sesame Street in Saudi Arabia, and LGBTQ+ acceptance in sub-saharan Africa in order to advance humanity.

You consider yourself a sort of intellectual, yet you gobble up those liberal talking points and fads and don't realize you're being manipulated.

Show me a post of yours denouncing Musk and SpaceX before he was aligned with Trump. You can't.

Its not like SpaceX is some sort of ambiguous think tank or NGO promising results through research or "compassion and outreach" that never materialize. They are producing tangible results and advancements.

You're just butthurt because he's not all aboard the liberal agenda, and it's obvious. You can't hide from your posting history.
Posted by jnethe1
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:53 pm to
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He has received hundreds of billions in taxpayer funding


Yes, and he has produced products and services that have changed our way of life. We have a good return on that investment.

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So did solyndra, but Elon has produced products and services that have changed the world. Solyndra received a $535 million dollar guaranteed loan only to declare bankruptcy 2 years later.


Conveniently ignored that I already pointed that out… lol
Just going to ignore that a company received $535 billion by Obama that declared bankruptcy two years later? Why are you and others not acknowledging this? Is there no discernible difference here in your view?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16210 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:57 pm to
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NASA made it farther with a Casio calculator than Musk has made it with supercomputers running computational fluid dynamics...


NASA also couldn’t get off the launch pad for years using recycled technology from the space shuttle program whilst spacex has figured out how to capture and reuse the rockets used to get to orbit reducing the cost immensely. But this isn’t about cost and savings, this is about him being on a side you disagree with. This isn’t about logic for people like you. This is your religion.
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
3997 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 6:58 pm to
Are you in the top 0.01% of wealth owners? Otherwise you're stuck here while the rich escape this hell scape
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 6:59 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19924 posts
Posted on 6/3/25 at 7:01 pm to
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Just going to ignore that a company received $535 billion

It's just millions...
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Is there no discernible difference here in your view?

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