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re: Syracuse cops handcuff 11 year old girl walking home from school

Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 6:34 pm to
She is a fricking minor or child and they fricking idiots. They should have apologized and given her a ride to school or is that too much to ask from a public employee that fricks up for you bootlicking pig worshipers
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6073 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:00 pm to
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understand the level of shitbag city cops have to deal with

This is what I quoted you on. And below is what I responded with.
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That's their jobs. To enforce the law & deal with those who have broken it. Not to harass innocent children.


I never mentioned qualified immunity, nor made an argument for or against.

I think you're confused & arguing with yourself.

Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73749 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:08 pm to
Really sad video. They could stop her without the handcuffs after seeing she's a child and then confirming the picture.

Her friends were absolutely awesome. Awesome in how they had her back and defended her in a way that didn't come across as defensive. And the way they comforted her after she got emotional. I'm so impressed by her friends.
This post was edited on 1/18/25 at 7:09 pm
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8442 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 7:21 pm to
How long did this whole thing take? 10 minutes? I’m of the mind that that it’s unfortunate she was wearing the same thing as the person of interest, but it doesn’t seem to be that bad.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 8:46 pm to
So if a cop mocked your innocent child and called them a liar, you'd be cool with it? They didn't just do a quick investigation. They made personal remarks about the child. Not to mention a child should never be questioned without their parent or guardian present.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8442 posts
Posted on 1/18/25 at 9:45 pm to
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So if a cop mocked your innocent child and called them a liar, you'd be cool with it?


I could see that my child was wearing the exact same thing as the person they were looking for, and be ok with that. Explain the situation to them after it was over and be done with it.

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They didn't just do a quick investigation


Can you provide time stamps for how long this interaction took?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37314 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:03 am to
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You should see what paramedics have to deal with.

EMS also gets qualified immunity
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:07 am to
That's a large 11 yo.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32883 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 9:16 am to
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None of this makes sense or provides any realistic alternative to qualified immunity.

The current state of QI in this country makes it functionally impossible to sue law enforcement for even the most egregious and intentional of rights violations because the way we define a constitutional right as being “clearly established prior to the misconduct” is that someone has already sued, and already won, for that exact violation. Which means that, as long as no one successfully sued law enforcement for a particular violation, law enforcement can continue engaging in that exact violation, intentionally, forever, and can’t be successfully sued, creating one of the most obscene Catch 22s in all of the law.

It’s not a binary of the current status quo versus full open liability: we can, and should, remove that prong of the QI test, leaving the vastly more rational test of whether the officer intentionally violated a constitutional right. Anyone opposed is either a member of the police union or a sycophant of one.
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